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Everybody looks great in camp, Marshon...

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That's curious. I was under the impression that Brees was struggling. Where did I get that notion?

:confused:

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Doesn't start till 38:08...And, no, I didn't watch dead air for 38 minutes...

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It’s more than just WWL. It’s not only what they are saying but it’s what they are not saying. In that article JP posted a couple pages back that mentioned Williams interceptions didn’t mention who threw the interception. When is the last time they failed to mention who a play was made against. Especially when it comes to QBS. It was Brees. I guarantee if it was Winston who threw it they would have pointed it out as they have in the past.
I also fail to see how WWL would benefit from reporting negativity . The Saints are their bread and butter.

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You are so full of crap, Dude. I would like to think you were smarter than that. Interceptions are common early on in practices. Common and meaningless. EVERY QB is going to throw them before they get on the same page with the receivers. They are going to be feeling out the receivers AND the defense to see what they can get away with. It is all a part of the process. Any knowledgeable football fan would understand that. But, beyond that, I have heard nothing but good about Brees from all sources ... including WWL. I have gone back through and wasted my time searching for any sign of your unfounded claims of Brees struggling and Winston being declared the best QB in camp "by far". None were to be found.

Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? People come to this forum and primarily this thread looking for facts and information about the Saints 2020 training camp and they see the these claims that you dream up instead.

:rolleyes:

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I heard Mike Detillier say that the rookie Marquez Callaway is starting to take some snaps as a gunner. Relatively new to him so there's a challenge.

Excel on special teams, then you have a shot ... especially as a undrafted guy.

Just ask Josh Hill.

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Again everyone else playing nice. You just can’t resist hijacking a comment you don’t agree with. All the other adults in the room just move on instead of making Four posts in a row trying to prove a point. I’m just going to leave this here because JP is putting a lot of work into this and I’m not going to flood it with any more posts arguing with you. You are an *******, have always been an *******, and must have gotten picked on relentlessly as a kid or you wouldn’t have grown up to become a geriatric internet bully. That is all.

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How about trying to stick to facts and stop making crap up and you won't get called out? Simple as that.

JP, and others, are working hard to share every bit of factual information we can find concerning training camp. Try attempting to do the same. That is all.

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After Further Review: Five takes from Saints practice #4 - Friday Practice

Take Two: Winston inaccurate during team periods

For the second day in a row, Winston struggled with accuracy during the team periods. His first pass was tipped at the line of scrimmage, then he overthrew Marquez Callaway on a fade route. In his final period, he was a little behind Juwan Johnson on a shallow cross, then was late on a short throw to Callaway, that was broken up by Robinson. On the next play, he overthrew Jared Cook on a deep out. He finished the period with the interception to Williams described in take one. Winston tried to finesse the throw, and drop the ball in over the top to Tommy Stevens. He put a little too much air under it, which Williams took advantage of.

Take Three: Other Top Plays

Drew Brees and the first-team offense had their best stretch of camp in the first four plays of the second team period. Brees hit Michael Thomas (slant), Emmanuel Sanders (shallow cross, great YAC), Thomas again (out), and Jared Cook (out) for four straight completions.

Read the rest here ...

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Anyone else more excited to see the defense than the offense for a change? Some of those guys sound pumped.

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NOLA.com breakdown. Defense looking good. Scary good.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nol...d7a45.amp.html

Is NOLA a reliable source or are they just picking on Brees and being negative?

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DEFENSE STANDS OUT AGAIN

The defense had another impressive day during team periods, and Payton said as much.

"I thought the defense had a pretty good day," Payton said. "Overall, I think they've got their legs underneath them."

The offense started out strong with quarterback Drew Brees opening up the first team period with completions to wide receiver Michael Thomas, wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, Thomas again and tight end Jared Cook before things went off the rails. On Brees' last attempt of that series, he overthrew a pass that appeared to be intended for wide receiver Tre'Quan Smith.

When Brees came back into the team drills, he launched a pass intended for Thomas, but cornerback Janoris "Jackrabbit" Jenkins broke it up and Brees was less than pleased. On the next play, Brees had Cook in his sights but the ball fell incomplete, resulting in more frustration from Brees. Brees ended that three-play series with a completion to Thomas.

In the second period of team drills, defensive end Carl Granderson, defensive end Cameron Jordan and linebacker Demario Davis all sacked Brees. Additionally, both Jenkins and safety Ceedy Duce nearly came up with interceptions of the Saints quarterback.

WINSTON UPDATE

Quarterback Jameis Winston had an increase in reps Friday with Taysom Hill absent, but not everything went according to plan.

In the first team session, one of Winston's first passing attempts was batted down by defensive tackle Jalen Dalton. Winston was later sacked. He rebounded by connecting with wide receiver Lil’Jordan Humphrey, but then overthrew rookie receiver Marquez Callaway on the next play. Winston bounced back with completions to running back Ty Montgomery and Callaway.

On the last two plays of the first team session, Winston took a bad snap and completed a pass to wide receiver Deonte Harris. He then connected with wide receiver Emmanuel Butler.

Winston started off the second team session with a handoff to running back Dwayne Washington, then had four straight incompletions. Cornerback Patrick Robinson was in on the coverage for two of those missed passes and cornerback Justin Hardee was involved with another. The fourth incompletion was overthrown. Winston wrapped up his six-play series with a completion to wide receiver Juwan Johnson.

The second team period of practice ended with Winston having three more plays. He completed two passes to wide receiver Bennie Fowler III, but between those catches, cornerback P.J. Williams had an interception on a pass intended for rookie tight end Tommy Stevens.

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I don't see anything negative here. Except for maybe Winston's continued struggles. So, how does this support your premise that Brees will be replaced by Winston by week 4 AND that Brees is struggling AND Winston is "by far" the best QB in camp?

Try again.

:rolleyes:

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For those that do not understand how things progress in the NFL preseason, the defense is always more prevalent due to the complexity of offense and the timing involved. Do not make the mistake to judge either unit or individual after only four practices.

:bng:

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Winston/Hill whoever doesn’t really matter. Not everything is unicorns and rainbows when it comes to Brees. You selectively post anything you can find as long as it fits your opinion. You asked for a reliable source and there it is, I didn’t just copy and paste the parts that support my opinions like you do.
I for one don’t care who our starting QB is. We have a very legit chance of making it to the Super Bowl with the amount of talent and depth we have on both sides of the ball.

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Dude...how am I supposed to enjoy blocking Guido, when you constantly quote his posts. Lmao!!!!

JK...um...sort of...bahahaha!!

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He says Defense gets going before the Offense... ;)

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I was listening to NFL Radio's Press Coverage with Vic Carucci and Dan Leberfeld this morning. They were talking about the press's coverage of training camps and some of the mistakes that some of the fans make when consuming that information. One thing they keyed in on in particular ... interceptions. Leberfeld said that too many fans read far too much into interceptions thrown during training camp practices. He said those interceptions are expected because the good QB's are going to be pressing the limits with each receiver to see how far they can go with their throw. They want to figure out to what point a thrown ball exceeds that receiver's ability to win that battle with the defender. He said a mistake that some young, inexperienced QB's make in these practices is that they worry too much about throwing that pick that they never get to that extreme point of trust with the receiver. They are worried about what some members of the media and/or the fans are going to say about those picks. They fail to understand that the time to "get on the same page" with your receivers is in the preseason or during practices ... not during games.

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So what happened to "That is all"? :D Keep climbing down that rabbit hole, my friend. By the way, nothing in that article supported your opinions. No where did it mention that Brees was struggling, or that Winston was "by far" the best performing QB in camp, or that Winston will be the starting QB by week 4 because the offensive line has given up on Brees. All three are things that you declared in this thread with the first two being things you claimed to have heard or read with no forthcoming support whatsoever.

Every year you make outlandish projections about individual players and how you expect them to fail. It appears you have targeted Brees this season and no amount of facts will stand in your way.

:D

Tell you what, $20 says that Winston will not take over as starter for a benched Drew Brees this season. Whatcha say, my friend?

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If he says yes then I want some of that action. I'll double down and bet on the Saints to win the Super bowl. I'll be able to retire on my winnings. :p

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The problem with our instant gratification society is people wanting to give up way too soon on players coming back from major injuries. Sheldon Rankins was looking phenomenal before the Achilles injury. He’s going to be a force this year. He’s better than the DT we just gave big money to.

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I think you are discounting David a tad.

Onyemata takes double teams like it isn't nothing and is a huge reason Demario Davis can play so freely and have so much success against the run and rushing the passer.

More importantly is that he is DURABLE unlike Rankins.

Hopefully Sheldon is 100% in 2020.

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Plus, when Onyemata makes a sack, they look like they really hurt because all the quarterbacks faces are flush (yeah, black and white)...

...and that plays in a QB's head, even Drew will admit it...

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I get where you guys are coming from... I think Onyemata is a great fit at the 1-technique- better than Malcom Brown. Rankins is a terrific 3-technique though. Might I mention... God it feels great to debate where our DT’s are a better fit!