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jeanpierre 08-26-2020 04:33 PM

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jeanpierre 08-26-2020 04:37 PM

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dizzle88 08-26-2020 05:44 PM

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If Sheldon is truly back to 2018 form then that would be incredible. Our interior sorely missed his presence in the playoffs.

K Major 08-26-2020 06:00 PM

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It's too bad there isn't at least one pre season game to see what progress these men have made at camp. Specifically guys fighting for roster spots.

Regular season kicks off in 2 weeks.

AsylumGuido 08-26-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894724)
It's too bad there isn't at least one pre season game to see what progress these men have made at camp. Specifically guys fighting for roster spots.

Regular season kicks off in 2 weeks.

Those that make the decisions are seeing what they can. For the rest of us, we have no real input so it doesn't matter. I know it bugs us, but it is what it is.

jeanpierre 08-26-2020 07:38 PM

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NFLPA can b*tch and complain all they want about PreSeason Games, but they not only are entertaining and exciting for fans, but they've made more NFL careers than cost and are necessary part of the NFL process...

ChrisXVI 08-26-2020 07:48 PM

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LB Kaden Elliss with the “pick six” today. I’m really excited about this guy’s potential.


SmashMouth 08-26-2020 08:30 PM

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K Major 08-26-2020 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 894727)
LB Kaden Elliss with the “pick six” today. I’m really excited about this guy’s potential.

https://twitter.com/garlandgillen/st...59863824928769

Nice.

Didn't Ellis play some TE at Idaho? He has ability and that knee looks fantastic.

jeanpierre 08-27-2020 12:54 PM

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jeanpierre 08-27-2020 01:14 PM

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K Major 08-27-2020 04:48 PM

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I kind of missed out on the evaluation of Keith.

Pratville, AL product, transferred from Michigan to WVU where he ranked #4 in the Big 12 for pass breakups, started 10 games as a senior, runs a sub 4.4 etc ...

Is this someone Coach Glenn can polish into a legit #2 CB within a few seasons? Maybe coaches see more promise here vs Deatrick Nichols?

Here is where I agree with JP ...A pre season game or two surely wouldn't hurt in evaluation for guys like this looking to solidify a roster spot.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894749)
I kind of missed out on the evaluation of Keith.

Pratville, AL product, transferred from Michigan to WVU where he ranked #4 in the Big 12 for pass breakups, started 10 games as a senior, runs a sub 4.4 etc ...

Is this someone Coach Glenn can polish into a legit #2 CB within a few seasons? Maybe coaches see more promise here vs Deatrick Nichols?

Here is where I agree with JP ...A pre season game or two surely wouldn't hurt in evaluation for guys like this looking to solidify a roster spot.


But there isn’t preseason games so that’s that. Life can be a real ***** so it’s time to move on. In the overall scheme of things it’s really not important. Now electricity would be nice.

K Major 08-27-2020 09:56 PM

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Looks like a catch and TD to me :).

Good work Harris.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 08:27 AM

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AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 08:30 AM

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Saints Day 11 observations: Drew Brees completes 50-yard pass in Superdome, 11 absent

BY AMIE JUST | STAFF WRITER AUG 29, 2020 - 10:00 PM

The New Orleans Saints returned to the Mercedes-Benz Superdome for an evening practice under the lights, getting their first look at the Superdome since they last played in the building in January.

Saints coach Sean Payton said he felt the 1 hour and 45 minute long shells practice in the Dome was beneficial, especially since they won't get any preseason games before Week 1 kicks off on Sept. 13 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

"It was a pretty crisp practice," Payton said of working on several situations and team periods.

PARTICIPATION

Absent: 11 Saints players were not observed in their practice under the lights, including several starters.

Wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, safety Saquan Hampton and linebacker Chase Hansen were not present, missing their first practices. Both Hampton and Hansen left practice Friday and went into the training room.

Rookie lineman Cesar Ruiz and running back Ty Montgomery missed their second practice after they appeared to sustain injuries in Thursday's practice.

Defensive end Marcus Davenport was absent for the third straight day. Rookie linebacker Zack Baun missed his fourth day of practice, and veteran safety Malcolm Jenkins was out for the fifth day.

Running back Alvin Kamara was out again for the second straight day, missing his fourth practice in total. It's not known what the reason for his absence is this go-round, but he previously missed two practices due to a stomach bug.

Additionally, guard Andrus Peat (thumb) and linebacker Anthony Chickillo (undisclosed) missed their 11th practice.

Back at practice: After missing Friday's practice, tackle Ryan Ramczyk was present.

New faces: The three players the Saints signed on Saturday were all present at practice. Defensive end T.J. Carter wore the No. 69 jersey. Linebacker Wynton McManis wore the No. 59 jersey. Defensive end Anthony Lanier II wore No. 57, signaling a number change for Baun.

Baun briefly wore No. 53 before the Saints signed Nigel Bradham, but when Bradham was briefly in the fold, Baun wore the No. 57 jersey. Now that Bradham has been released, Baun has reverted back to the 53.

QUARTERBACKS

Quarterback Drew Brees during 7-on-7 periods completed his first three passes, including hitting wide receiver Michael Thomas for what appeared to be a 50-yard pass. Later during the period, he found Thomas again for a pass that went more than 45 yards. Through 7-on-7 drills, Brees completed 6-of-10 passes.

During team, Brees completed at least 5-of-8 passes, missing on one deep pass to tight end Jared Cook that was broken up by safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson/Ceedy Duce in the endzone.

Other Receivers Brees connected with during 11-on-11s were: Deonte Harris, Tre'Quan Smith, Thomas and Cook. The last play of team drills was a handoff to running back Dwayne Washington.

Brees had two passes that were batted down by defensive backs (detailed further below), but he bounced back with touchdown passes to both Cook and Smith in the last stretch of practice.

Quarterback Taysom Hill completed 2-of-4 passes during 7-on-7s, finding running back Tony Jones Jr. and wide receiver Marquez Callaway.

Hill had two series during team, completing both of his passes during the first drive with one completion going to tight end Tommy Stevens and the other to wide receiver Juwan Johnson for roughly a 20-yard gain. (I, a short person, couldn't see much of his second series. But I did see Hill throw a heater to wide receiver Emmanuel Butler that went through the back of the end zone.)

Quarterback Jameis Winston completed all three of his 7-on-7 passes to Jones, wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders and running back Dwayne Washington Jr.

During team, Winston didn't fare as well, throwing at least three incomplete passes, though the last of which was a dropped ball by tight end Adam Trautman.

Read the rest here ...

rezburna 08-30-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894749)
I kind of missed out on the evaluation of Keith.

Pratville, AL product, transferred from Michigan to WVU where he ranked #4 in the Big 12 for pass breakups, started 10 games as a senior, runs a sub 4.4 etc ...

Is this someone Coach Glenn can polish into a legit #2 CB within a few seasons? Maybe coaches see more promise here vs Deatrick Nichols?

Here is where I agree with JP ...A pre season game or two surely wouldn't hurt in evaluation for guys like this looking to solidify a roster spot.

Prattville? Them boys good.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894749)
I kind of missed out on the evaluation of Keith.

Pratville, AL product, transferred from Michigan to WVU where he ranked #4 in the Big 12 for pass breakups, started 10 games as a senior, runs a sub 4.4 etc ...

Is this someone Coach Glenn can polish into a legit #2 CB within a few seasons? Maybe coaches see more promise here vs Deatrick Nichols?

Here is where I agree with JP ...A pre season game or two surely wouldn't hurt in evaluation for guys like this looking to solidify a roster spot.

Yes, it is true that a pre-season game or two would help evaluation, but these are special times and we should be happy we are going to be having an NFL season to watch. Besides, it may turn out that MORE players get a chance this year as opposed to the past. Practice squads have been expanded to sixteen players. Rules regarding protecting players and shuffling players in and out of the 53 man roster have been relaxed. Teams will be giving players 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances in this climate and you can be assured that player evaluations will be continuing full speed ahead after the season begins ... especially given the lack of much NCAA football to evaluate in person.

jeanpierre 08-30-2020 10:55 AM

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Washington has had that bumpy road in his football career, but I believe this is genuine UDFA gold as the raw talent is there...

KW just needs coaching up, something Payton's teams haven't been too patient in doing unless backed into a corner like 2017, but the results were tremendous...

All this trading up has negatively affected our ability to address multiple positions in getting youth coming in behind starters so we're not always in salary-cap purgatory...

We should be bringing in at least one new boundary CB and one S every season, with at least one Day 1 or Day 2 pick spent in that group every year...

jeanpierre 08-30-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894749)
I kind of missed out on the evaluation of Keith.

Pratville, AL product, transferred from Michigan to WVU where he ranked #4 in the Big 12 for pass breakups, started 10 games as a senior, runs a sub 4.4 etc ...

Is this someone Coach Glenn can polish into a legit #2 CB within a few seasons? Maybe coaches see more promise here vs Deatrick Nichols?

Here is where I agree with JP ...A pre season game or two surely wouldn't hurt in evaluation for guys like this looking to solidify a roster spot.

Sean Fazande Fox8 New Orleans interviewed Taysom Hill where they discussed a number of things including Hill becoming a Dad and No PreSeason Games...

Hadn't realized that no one has been effected as much by a lack of PreSeason Games than Taysom Hill, where an NFL QB needs as many snaps as possible to hone his skills, craft...

Now, if he's truly the No.2, he'll have to take those snaps in regular season games - when it all counts, so it'll be interesting to see what Payton doesn in the God-forbid, unforeseen happening...

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 894863)
Sean Fazande Fox8 New Orleans interviewed Taysom Hill where they discussed a number of things including Hill becoming a Dad and No PreSeason Games...

Hadn't realized that no one has been effected as much by a lack of PreSeason Games than Taysom Hill, where an NFL QB needs as many snaps as possible to hone his skills, craft...

Now, if he's truly the No.2, he'll have to take those snaps in regular season games - when it all counts, so it'll be interesting to see what Payton doesn in the God-forbid, unforeseen happening...

He'll play Winston just like he played Bridgewater. Hill is not the #2 as long as Winston, or any other viable option is on the roster.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 01:09 PM

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AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 01:12 PM

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Rugby Saint II 08-30-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 894860)
Washington has had that bumpy road in his football career, but I believe this is genuine UDFA gold as the raw talent is there...

KW just needs coaching up, something Payton's teams haven't been too patient in doing unless backed into a corner like 2017, but the results were tremendous...

All this trading up has negatively affected our ability to address multiple positions in getting youth coming in behind starters so we're not always in salary-cap purgatory...

We should be bringing in at least one new boundary CB and one S every season, with at least one Day 1 or Day 2 pick spent in that group every year...

But that's where we are investing in the trenches. :doh:

We built a strong D-line and O-line recently. Maybe it's time to invest highly in other positions.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 01:23 PM

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The Dude 08-30-2020 05:21 PM

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https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4a14ff8c1.html

Jesus injuries are sure piling up.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2020 05:40 PM

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Yeah. Looking like we're going to have to forfeit the season. :D

They were talking about this today on NFL Network. Teams are sitting players with the most minor of dings just to make sure they have players ready on day one. You get a hangnail and your out until week one. That way you get to see more of the backups. Teams aren't wanting to take any chances with starters if not necessary is what they were saying.

rezburna 08-30-2020 07:12 PM

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Oh ****.

jeanpierre 08-30-2020 11:05 PM

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Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...

jeanpierre 08-30-2020 11:51 PM

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K Major 08-31-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 894914)
Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...

And that's unfortunate.

All the reports I was reading pointed to the "ankle". Just glad AK is back to himself for 2020 & we also have a capable back #2 in L Train.

AsylumGuido 08-31-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 894914)
Well, we now know there was nothing minor about Alvin Kamara's knee, and Payton now has a consistent history of understating player injuries...

As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed. Why share information that you are not absolutely required to share? That would be counter-productive as a coach, no? I'll circle back around to arguably the greatest coach, undeniably the most successful, in NFL history, Bill Belechick. He makes Payton look like an open book when it comes to information. Things like severity on injuries should only be shared on a need to know basis and, regardless of how irritating, we as fans have no "need" to know. "Want" to know, yes. "Need" to know, no.

AsylumGuido 08-31-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 894923)
And that's unfortunate.

All the reports I was reading pointed to the "ankle". Just glad AK is back to himself for 2020 & we also have a capable back #2 in L Train.

I'm surprised they even let us know after the fact. But, if I recall, that information came from the Kamara camp, not the Saints themselves.

jeanpierre 08-31-2020 09:40 AM

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But injury disclosure is required by the league so as to prevent NFL coaches, personnel from being compromised by shadier organized criminal gambling operations...

In addition, the argument that As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed was also the same argument used defending the Saints clubhouse teammate pool...

Brian Urlacher even admitted to it on NFL Radio as did the Redskins' safety at the time the Goodell BountyGate Beatdown went down...

AsylumGuido 08-31-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 894935)
But injury disclosure is required by the league so as to prevent NFL coaches, personnel from being compromised by shadier organized criminal gambling operations...

In addition, the argument that As do most NFL coaches if you haven't noticed was also the same argument used defending the Saints clubhouse teammate pool...

Brian Urlacher even admitted to it on NFL Radio as did the Redskins' safety at the time the Goodell BountyGate Beatdown went down...

Once again, you are wishing for something that does not exist in the real world. No NFL coach divulges more than they can get away with. It doesn't matter that it isn't right. It is the way things are and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that fact.

Oh, by the way, Kamara's knee WAS reported on the injury report ...

Kade Kistner
November 6, 2019 5:23 pm ET

The New Orleans Saints will host the Atlanta Falcons in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome on Sunday in a Week 10 NFC South matchup. This will be the first matchup of the season for the two bitter rivals.

The initial injury reports published by the Saints and the Jaguars on Wednesday are the initial reports for the week. A second, updated report will be released on Thursday. The final injury report with game status for certain players will be issued on Friday. Daily changes in practice participation are noted in bold text.

Running back Alvin Kamara has been absent from the lineup after injuring his ankle (during practice in Week 5) and then his knee (against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Week 6). After two games of rest, and the bye week, Kamara should be ready to go. Tight end Jared Cook will be another playmaker to keep tabs on as the week progresses. Cook has been absent for the last two games the Saints have played, and should return to the lineup on Sunday.

From the Saints

TE Jared Cook (Ankle) Full
WR Tre’Quan Smith (Ankle) Full
QB Drew Brees (Rt. Thumb) Full
CB Patrick Robinson (Hamstring) Limited
RB Alvin Kamara (Knee/Ankle) Limited
TE Josh Hill (Calf) Limited

From the Falcons

RB Ito Smith (Neck) Did not participate
DE John Cominsky (Ankle) Did not participate
G James Carpenter (Knee) Limited
QB Matt Ryan (Ankle) Limited
CB Desmond Trufant (Toe) Limited
G Jamon Brown (Foot) Limited
G Wes Schweitzer (Head) Limited
TE Jaden Graham (Knee) Limited

dizzle88 08-31-2020 12:50 PM

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Not to massively shock anyone, but the normally healthy Marcus Davenport has missed 5 straight days of practice.

Along with Kamara, Zach Baun, Cesar Ruiz and Malcolm Jenkins.

Payton refused to comment on why they have not been present.

halloween 65 08-31-2020 01:51 PM

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Jenkins is probably leading a protest in Kenosha.

Rugby Saint II 08-31-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 894958)
Not to massively shock anyone, but the normally healthy Marcus Davenport has missed 5 straight days of practice.

Along with Kamara, Zach Baun, Cesar Ruiz and Malcolm Jenkins.

Payton refused to comment on why they have not been present.

That's an awfully long list. Marcus Davenport is on this list. That's a shocker.
Just sayin'.

K Major 08-31-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 894958)
Not to massively shock anyone, but the normally healthy Marcus Davenport has missed 5 straight days of practice.

5 straight days :confused:

What's his issue now?

jeanpierre 08-31-2020 02:57 PM

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