Michael Thomas has a High Ankle Sprain

TheOak · 09-17-2020, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I agree that productivity is relevant. I also agree that if a player is being unproductive, then they wouldn't be on the field.

Smith is on the field for a significant percentage of offensive plays. Why would the offensive brain trust continue to run him out on the field if they didn't think he was doing his job? They watch the tapes every week. They are in practice every day. They have every opportunity to determine that Tre'Quan shouldn't be out there. Yet he is.

One enlightening story to me is Tre's historic TD catch from Brees. It was pointed out that his route isn't normally targeted on that play. The ball simply isn't designed to go there. So, I figure there must be other plays that are like that in the Saints offense, and that even if Smith doesn't get a target, he's doing his job out there.

If Tre is an unproductive bad player, then why is out on the field?

SFIAH

You are trying to rationalize your position rather than recognize that everything you describe about Smith is also true about nearly all the WR in the league. A QB goes through progressions and if Smith was the only guy open that's where the ball went.

A receivers job is to run his route or block, if he is running his route his job is also to get open and catch what is thrown at him. Its simple yet very difficult in a league of professionals. If Smith did that consistently MT wouldn't have the lions share of the catches. No ones job is to put on a uniform and run around the field as some sort of $900k/year decoy receiver.

MT gets open and catches.
TS can catch but cant get open.
Ginn was able to get open because of his speed but couldn't catch for sh1t.

You keep asking why he is on the field.. in short it is because he is serviceable and had a contract but he isn't taking wear and tare off MT which is what he should be doing.

.... When a WR only has 3 more targets and has fewer catches than a backup QB he is not doing his job reliably. Getting open and catching the ball.

Let me put it a different way. Every time Drew has to throw a pass away, none of our receivers did their jobs. If they all did their jobs every play we wouldn't need a running game.

09-17-2020, 04:47 AM	#11
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Michael Thomas has a High Ankle Sprain Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I agree that productivity is relevant. I also agree that if a player is being unproductive, then they wouldn't be on the field. Smith is on the field for a significant percentage of offensive plays. Why would the offensive brain trust continue to run him out on the field if they didn't think he was doing his job? They watch the tapes every week. They are in practice every day. They have every opportunity to determine that Tre'Quan shouldn't be out there. Yet he is. One enlightening story to me is Tre's historic TD catch from Brees. It was pointed out that his route isn't normally targeted on that play. The ball simply isn't designed to go there. So, I figure there must be other plays that are like that in the Saints offense, and that even if Smith doesn't get a target, he's doing his job out there. If Tre is an unproductive bad player, then why is out on the field? SFIAH You are trying to rationalize your position rather than recognize that everything you describe about Smith is also true about nearly all the WR in the league. A QB goes through progressions and if Smith was the only guy open that's where the ball went. A receivers job is to run his route or block, if he is running his route his job is also to get open and catch what is thrown at him. Its simple yet very difficult in a league of professionals. If Smith did that consistently MT wouldn't have the lions share of the catches. No ones job is to put on a uniform and run around the field as some sort of $900k/year decoy receiver. MT gets open and catches. TS can catch but cant get open. Ginn was able to get open because of his speed but couldn't catch for sh1t. You keep asking why he is on the field.. in short it is because he is serviceable and had a contract but he isn't taking wear and tare off MT which is what he should be doing. .... When a WR only has 3 more targets and has fewer catches than a backup QB he is not doing his job reliably. Getting open and catching the ball. Let me put it a different way. Every time Drew has to throw a pass away, none of our receivers did their jobs. If they all did their jobs every play we wouldn't need a running game.
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