Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew

WW_Who_Dat · 09-22-2020, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/homesickwhodat/s...31060590452736

I am Brees fan from day one and I feel we have gotten to where we have been on Brees’s football IQ and arm ... coach SP was huge part of putting Drew in the right situations to succeed.

But something is not right ... is it because he not processing the flow of the field as efficiently, causing hesitation in his decision making. Which then rushes his normal game flow causing the inaccurate throws. Kinda sorta making it look like he is under pressure.

Or has there been a slight change to his throwing motion that brought about the touted increase in arm strength. Has that change, if there indeed was one, thrown off his anticipation and timing with his throws.

It’s early days but there has to be a clock ticking in the organization.

Of a more immediate concern to me is the defensive performance. With the talent Dennis Allen has he seem unable to make the necessary in game adjustments to his game plan. And his starting game day plan ain’t that great too start with.

Not sold on the 6 DB’s playing everywhere that might be Disrupting the defense more than causing confusion for the opposing QB.

WillSaints81 · 09-22-2020, 08:05 PM

Jenkins....I don't trust the chemistry with him back.

The Dude · 09-22-2020, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Jenkins....I don't trust the chemistry with him back.

As mentioned above I feel the same way about Sanders. Doesn’t help that Sanders had drops. Drew won’t have any confidence in him and I can see Sanders resenting him.
On a positive note Smith looked good.
I think we will shake this off. After week 4 we will know what this team really is.

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

As mentioned above I feel the same way about Sanders. Doesn’t help that Sanders had drops. Drew won’t have any confidence in him and I can see Sanders resenting him.
On a positive note Smith looked good.
I think we will shake this off. After week 4 we will know what this team really is.

Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece.

The Dude · 09-23-2020, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece.

I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?

AsylumGuido · 09-23-2020, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?

The second. Been crying in my pillow. Not literally, but I am so invested into my Saints it is still a dagger through the heart.

Sorry. It's how I roll. Been an all in die hard fan for 53 years. Never going to end until I die.

K Major · 09-22-2020, 11:13 PM

Per Barstool Sabermetrics, DB has the 2nd shortest avg pass attempt length (4.8 yards) out of any QB in the past 15 years.

No def coordinator will respect the deep ball until DB proves otherwise.

Love what he's brought to the game, City of New Orleans but folks DB is 41 years old and entering his 20th NFL season. The end is near.

rezburna · 09-23-2020, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Per Barstool Sabermetrics, DB has the 2nd shortest avg pass attempt length (4.8 yards) out of any QB in the past 15 years.

No def coordinator will respect the deep ball until DB proves otherwise.

Love what he's brought to the game, City of New Orleans but folks DB is 41 years old and entering his 20th NFL season. The end is near.

You already know how I feel about it bro. The end is already here. He’ll have some games and some moments where we’re all like “there he is”! But a Super Bowl? Not with that arm.

gosaints1 · 09-23-2020, 10:03 AM

Team played more complimentary football without DB#9 last year, as a team, than anytime I can remember in the last five or six years. There was a hunger, and awareness that if I, individually, don’t do my job, we WILL lose games. I’m not saying DB#9 needs to be benched, nor should be. I am saying: THAT “legend” no longer exists on the field, only in our memories.

Funny thing about that 4.8 yards pass length is that it’s tied for the worst in the air pass length, since 2009 (our SB year) with one other player. That player? Brett Favre from our NFC championship opponent the Vikings. So..., dinking and dunking can get you there. But, then and now, the younger, hungrier, stronger and faster team will win the championships.

Don’t believe me? Look at our last three seasons.

Papa Voodoo · 09-23-2020, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs?

Drew’s arm is toast. That’s evident by the inaccuracy and lack of deep balls. The int was embarrassing. I think we still win the South but major changes have to occur with our quarterback play and secondary if we want to advance in the playoffs. Can’t dink and dunk to a super bowl victory.

Coach loves wasting timeouts on challenges he has no chance of winning. It’s mind boggling every year.

Manning did but his D was way better. They tried everything in the book on Waller; not much worked. They played well then stunk then got better. A good butt kicking. Green Bay will be a strong indicator if they have it a fourth year in a row or not.

09-22-2020, 10:30 PM	#1
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,279 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/homesickwhodat/s...31060590452736 I am Brees fan from day one and I feel we have gotten to where we have been on Brees’s football IQ and arm ... coach SP was huge part of putting Drew in the right situations to succeed. But something is not right ... is it because he not processing the flow of the field as efficiently, causing hesitation in his decision making. Which then rushes his normal game flow causing the inaccurate throws. Kinda sorta making it look like he is under pressure. Or has there been a slight change to his throwing motion that brought about the touted increase in arm strength. Has that change, if there indeed was one, thrown off his anticipation and timing with his throws. It’s early days but there has to be a clock ticking in the organization. Of a more immediate concern to me is the defensive performance. With the talent Dennis Allen has he seem unable to make the necessary in game adjustments to his game plan. And his starting game day plan ain’t that great too start with. Not sold on the 6 DB’s playing everywhere that might be Disrupting the defense more than causing confusion for the opposing QB.

09-22-2020, 08:05 PM	#2
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Jenkins....I don't trust the chemistry with him back.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Jenkins....I don't trust the chemistry with him back. As mentioned above I feel the same way about Sanders. Doesn’t help that Sanders had drops. Drew won’t have any confidence in him and I can see Sanders resenting him. On a positive note Smith looked good. I think we will shake this off. After week 4 we will know what this team really is.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by The Dude As mentioned above I feel the same way about Sanders. Doesn’t help that Sanders had drops. Drew won’t have any confidence in him and I can see Sanders resenting him. On a positive note Smith looked good. I think we will shake this off. After week 4 we will know what this team really is. Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Drops? Sanders didn't have any dropped passes. Montgomery and Cook lead the team in drops after two games with one a piece. I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week?
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09-23-2020, 08:56 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by The Dude I see your back. Finally get your foot out of your mouth from your comment right before the interception or have you been crying in your pillow all week? The second. Been crying in my pillow. Not literally, but I am so invested into my Saints it is still a dagger through the heart. Sorry. It's how I roll. Been an all in die hard fan for 53 years. Never going to end until I die.

09-22-2020, 11:13 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Per Barstool Sabermetrics, DB has the 2nd shortest avg pass attempt length (4.8 yards) out of any QB in the past 15 years. No def coordinator will respect the deep ball until DB proves otherwise. Love what he's brought to the game, City of New Orleans but folks DB is 41 years old and entering his 20th NFL season. The end is near. jnormand, gosaints1 and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by K Major Per Barstool Sabermetrics, DB has the 2nd shortest avg pass attempt length (4.8 yards) out of any QB in the past 15 years. No def coordinator will respect the deep ball until DB proves otherwise. Love what he's brought to the game, City of New Orleans but folks DB is 41 years old and entering his 20th NFL season. The end is near. You already know how I feel about it bro. The end is already here. He’ll have some games and some moments where we’re all like “there he is”! But a Super Bowl? Not with that arm. gosaints1 likes this.

09-23-2020, 10:03 AM	#9
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Team played more complimentary football without DB#9 last year, as a team, than anytime I can remember in the last five or six years. There was a hunger, and awareness that if I, individually, don’t do my job, we WILL lose games. I’m not saying DB#9 needs to be benched, nor should be. I am saying: THAT “legend” no longer exists on the field, only in our memories. Funny thing about that 4.8 yards pass length is that it’s tied for the worst in the air pass length, since 2009 (our SB year) with one other player. That player? Brett Favre from our NFC championship opponent the Vikings. So..., dinking and dunking can get you there. But, then and now, the younger, hungrier, stronger and faster team will win the championships. Don’t believe me? Look at our last three seasons.
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09-23-2020, 10:26 AM	#10
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Defense collapsed, Payton and Drew Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs Never understood the Jenkins signing outside of being a vocal leader he is past his prime. Waller dominated the whole secondary. No adjustment was made. Why not bracket? Was the focus on Ruggs? Drew’s arm is toast. That’s evident by the inaccuracy and lack of deep balls. The int was embarrassing. I think we still win the South but major changes have to occur with our quarterback play and secondary if we want to advance in the playoffs. Can’t dink and dunk to a super bowl victory. Coach loves wasting timeouts on challenges he has no chance of winning. It’s mind boggling every year. Manning did but his D was way better. They tried everything in the book on Waller; not much worked. They played well then stunk then got better. A good butt kicking. Green Bay will be a strong indicator if they have it a fourth year in a row or not. saintsfan1976 and gosaints1 like this.