Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South

The Dude · 10-13-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m really not concerned about the defense.

Glad to see you say this too because you seem to know a ton about the secondary. What do you think it’s going to take for them to get it right.

bobdog86 · 10-13-2020, 09:55 AM

I think at the end of the season we will be fine....injuries, effed up training camp or lack of, or no preseason. recipe for a slow start. I think each team is a little different, some will start hot, some will take time to cultivate. Our D line looked solid last night, linebackers were just okay, secondary is the weakest link, but we are banged up, I expect us to be fine. Although Jenkins needs to get his s**t together quickly. As far as the Offense, should be fine when we have all the parts back. Although I would like to see our future HOF QB on the field with 3 minutes to go, and game on the line. more Murray, more Cook less Hill. And the Calloway kid peaked my interest...

73Saint · 10-13-2020, 10:07 AM

D line and run D does look stout, and it was good to see Davenport getting in the game last night.

Rugby Saint II · 10-13-2020, 10:33 AM

3-2 baby! Championship!

jeanpierre · 10-13-2020, 11:41 AM

Secondary needs to be shuffled, DA bounced...

jeanpierre · 10-13-2020, 11:41 AM

turbo_dog · 10-13-2020, 11:48 AM

It was good to see the team pull that one out on a defensive stand in OT. It could have easily gone the other way, but the team regrouped in the second half and played well enough to win.

A few thoughts:

Seeing Kenneth Murray playing last night reminded how much I wanted to see him at the 24th pick in the 2020 NFL draft.
The defensive line, including Davenport, played better than the previous games. Didn't see Malcolm Roach though.
Our secondary sometimes... what are they doing?
Anyone have stats on Ruiz? I know Nick Easton started, but then I saw Ruiz out there quite a bit. Who is our OL? It seems like they aren't sure.
Drew is definitely throwing some passes behind the receivers
I'd like to see more Marquez Calloway as a WR. Who the hell is Fowler III?
Penalties were cleaned up A LOT last night. Might just be an unbiased officiating crew, or a bit more discipline, maybe both. There was one play where I'm sure the defense hit Drew in the head, and there was no call.
I feel like they are forcing Taysom Hill in at certain situations, and everyone knows what the play is. Seemed like his package worked better when it was sprinkled in at different times.
Chargers defense was without 4-5 starters, let's keep that in mind

Overall a good W, but a lot of room for improvement.

SaintGnome · 10-13-2020, 12:28 PM

Wow, still beating the Dennis Allen dead horse? 14 points you cannot blame on the D thanks to Drew and Special teams. So the D only gave up 13. Held their run game in check, and was harassing their QB all game. What are you people expecting the Dome Patrol? It's 2020 you are not going to have that dominant defense on a week to week. If you look at the scoreboard for this week if a team scored under 20 pts it's not so much great D's as it is bad O's.

jeanpierre · 10-13-2020, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Wow, still beating the Dennis Allen dead horse? 14 points you cannot blame on the D thanks to Drew and Special teams. So the D only gave up 13. Held their run game in check, and was harassing their QB all game. What are you people expecting the Dome Patrol? It's 2020 you are not going to have that dominant defense on a week to week. If you look at the scoreboard for this week if a team scored under 20 pts it's not so much great D's as it is bad O's.

Missed PAT, Missed FG that hit uprights is why we're not talking about a loss today...

A Real Defense does not collapse on third and long or fourth and long as Dennis Allen's defenses do on a nearly cued basis...

And I find Sean Payton and Dennis Allen have too high an opinion of Malcolm Jenkins and what he can/can't do...

K Major · 10-13-2020, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And I find Sean Payton and Dennis Allen have too high an opinion of Malcolm Jenkins and what he can/can't do...[/B]

Throughout Bree's tenure in NO, it's been the defense or lack thereof.

We still have issues stopping the long ball. To me, it's bad scheme especially considering we have quite a few talented players on that side of the ball.

QB's gashing us with the long ball, year after year after year. Maybe CSP is ok with just being "mediocre" on defense?

10-13-2020, 01:31 PM	#1
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10-13-2020, 09:55 AM	#2
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,485	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South I think at the end of the season we will be fine....injuries, effed up training camp or lack of, or no preseason. recipe for a slow start. I think each team is a little different, some will start hot, some will take time to cultivate. Our D line looked solid last night, linebackers were just okay, secondary is the weakest link, but we are banged up, I expect us to be fine. Although Jenkins needs to get his s**t together quickly. As far as the Offense, should be fine when we have all the parts back. Although I would like to see our future HOF QB on the field with 3 minutes to go, and game on the line. more Murray, more Cook less Hill. And the Calloway kid peaked my interest... 73Saint likes this.

10-13-2020, 10:07 AM	#3
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South D line and run D does look stout, and it was good to see Davenport getting in the game last night.

10-13-2020, 10:33 AM	#4
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10-13-2020, 11:41 AM	#5
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10-13-2020, 11:48 AM	#7
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,649	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South It was good to see the team pull that one out on a defensive stand in OT. It could have easily gone the other way, but the team regrouped in the second half and played well enough to win. A few thoughts: Seeing Kenneth Murray playing last night reminded how much I wanted to see him at the 24th pick in the 2020 NFL draft. The defensive line, including Davenport, played better than the previous games. Didn't see Malcolm Roach though. Our secondary sometimes... what are they doing? Anyone have stats on Ruiz? I know Nick Easton started, but then I saw Ruiz out there quite a bit. Who is our OL? It seems like they aren't sure. Drew is definitely throwing some passes behind the receivers I'd like to see more Marquez Calloway as a WR. Who the hell is Fowler III? Penalties were cleaned up A LOT last night. Might just be an unbiased officiating crew, or a bit more discipline, maybe both. There was one play where I'm sure the defense hit Drew in the head, and there was no call. I feel like they are forcing Taysom Hill in at certain situations, and everyone knows what the play is. Seemed like his package worked better when it was sprinkled in at different times. Chargers defense was without 4-5 starters, let's keep that in mind Overall a good W, but a lot of room for improvement.

10-13-2020, 12:28 PM	#8
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Wow, still beating the Dennis Allen dead horse? 14 points you cannot blame on the D thanks to Drew and Special teams. So the D only gave up 13. Held their run game in check, and was harassing their QB all game. What are you people expecting the Dome Patrol? It's 2020 you are not going to have that dominant defense on a week to week. If you look at the scoreboard for this week if a team scored under 20 pts it's not so much great D's as it is bad O's. AsylumGuido likes this.

10-13-2020, 01:17 PM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by SaintGnome Wow, still beating the Dennis Allen dead horse? 14 points you cannot blame on the D thanks to Drew and Special teams. So the D only gave up 13. Held their run game in check, and was harassing their QB all game. What are you people expecting the Dome Patrol? It's 2020 you are not going to have that dominant defense on a week to week. If you look at the scoreboard for this week if a team scored under 20 pts it's not so much great D's as it is bad O's. Missed PAT, Missed FG that hit uprights is why we're not talking about a loss today... A Real Defense does not collapse on third and long or fourth and long as Dennis Allen's defenses do on a nearly cued basis... And I find Sean Payton and Dennis Allen have too high an opinion of Malcolm Jenkins and what he can/can't do... Rugby Saint II, dizzle88, K Major and 1 others like this.
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10-13-2020, 01:27 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by jeanpierre And I find Sean Payton and Dennis Allen have too high an opinion of Malcolm Jenkins and what he can/can't do...[/B] Throughout Bree's tenure in NO, it's been the defense or lack thereof. We still have issues stopping the long ball. To me, it's bad scheme especially considering we have quite a few talented players on that side of the ball. QB's gashing us with the long ball, year after year after year. Maybe CSP is ok with just being "mediocre" on defense? jeanpierre likes this.