Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South

10-14-2020, 01:11 PM

On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc …

Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them.

Coaching?

FinSaint · 10-14-2020, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc …

Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them.

Coaching?

Well, he made plenty of mistakes in the week 3 Vikings game that I saw.

K Major · 10-14-2020, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, he made plenty of mistakes in the week 3 Vikings game that I saw.

Gotcha.

But overall, I think Kenny has improved as a strong safety with the Titans. I'm a big fan of Dean Pees defensive scheme.

TheOak · 10-14-2020, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I got to get to the dictionary on this one lol

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Sorry, not trying to be like that. I see this a lot when mathematicians try to write process maps, they don’t take efficiency into account.

At some point scheme complexity crosses the line into a confusing mess that even the creator has trouble following with out taking a moment to think about it.

Dennis Allen’s ideas are probably brilliant and on paper the formulation works. The break down comes when defensive players are trying to execute his plan and its so complicated that they have to think. Those guys have time to react, not to think. 1/2 a second of thought puts a WR 2-3 yards in front of you.

TheOak · 10-14-2020, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc …

Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them.

Coaching?

I’d probably give that to maturity since he is in his 8th season. We all got a little better at what we do over time.

The Titans seem to turn over DCs as much as we do lately.

st thomas · 10-14-2020, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Sorry, not trying to be like that. I see this a lot when mathematicians try to write process maps, they don’t take efficiency into account.

At some point scheme complexity crosses the line into a confusing mess that even the creator has trouble following with out taking a moment to think about it.

Dennis Allen’s ideas are probably brilliant and on paper the formulation works. The break down comes when defensive players are trying to execute his plan and its so complicated that they have to think. Those guys have time to react, not to think. 1/2 a second of thought puts a WR 2-3 yards in front of you.

I see it the same way, mental lapses = delay in every phase of the game

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10-14-2020, 01:36 PM	#52
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by K Major On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc … Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them. Coaching? Well, he made plenty of mistakes in the week 3 Vikings game that I saw. K Major likes this.

10-14-2020, 01:39 PM	#53
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, he made plenty of mistakes in the week 3 Vikings game that I saw. Gotcha. But overall, I think Kenny has improved as a strong safety with the Titans. I'm a big fan of Dean Pees defensive scheme.

10-14-2020, 02:36 PM	#54
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by st thomas I got to get to the dictionary on this one lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry, not trying to be like that. I see this a lot when mathematicians try to write process maps, they don’t take efficiency into account. At some point scheme complexity crosses the line into a confusing mess that even the creator has trouble following with out taking a moment to think about it. Dennis Allen’s ideas are probably brilliant and on paper the formulation works. The break down comes when defensive players are trying to execute his plan and its so complicated that they have to think. Those guys have time to react, not to think. 1/2 a second of thought puts a WR 2-3 yards in front of you. st thomas likes this.
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10-14-2020, 02:43 PM	#55
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by K Major On the topic of coaches/players not in position etc … Watching Titans/Bills last night, I focused on former Saints 1st rounder SS Kenny Vacarro. He had a lot of mental lapses with us however the last few seasons up in TN, it's all but gone. In that system, he's actually been a pretty good defensive player for them. Coaching? I’d probably give that to maturity since he is in his 8th season. We all got a little better at what we do over time. The Titans seem to turn over DCs as much as we do lately.

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10-14-2020, 02:43 PM	#56
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints beat the Chargers in a MNF thriller, regain 1st in NFC South Originally Posted by TheOak Sorry, not trying to be like that. I see this a lot when mathematicians try to write process maps, they don’t take efficiency into account. At some point scheme complexity crosses the line into a confusing mess that even the creator has trouble following with out taking a moment to think about it. Dennis Allen’s ideas are probably brilliant and on paper the formulation works. The break down comes when defensive players are trying to execute his plan and its so complicated that they have to think. Those guys have time to react, not to think. 1/2 a second of thought puts a WR 2-3 yards in front of you. I see it the same way, mental lapses = delay in every phase of the game Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk