Malcolm Jenkins

iceshack149 · 12-06-2020, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Anytime Jenkins comes up on this forum it’s prefaced with the reasons people don’t like him. At this point it isn’t football related because he’s looked from average to great since Week 4.

I knew that the off field stuff would come in to play in this thread. I honestly wanted to get people's opinion on his play since it may be that he's a big reason that the defense is playing so well.

rezburna · 12-06-2020, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Debating isn't instigating. It shouldn't warrant being shot. People who disagree shouldn't be labeled "racists" or "nazis". Those are all ways small-minded people react.

It isn’t the debate. It’s the keeping it going when the individuals involved say it’s over. I don’t utilize the term racist because I recognize racism to be a system. Bigoted or prejudiced is typically more applicable in those cases, but I don’t really care enough about the individual battles to utilize the verbiage on the forum.

I won’t lie to you and act like I don’t get those vibes from a lot posters, but I’ve dealt with those kind of personalities my entire life. I’m numb to it. You’ve always been respectful though. It would be intellectually dishonest on my part not to acknowledge that.

Rugby Saint II · 12-06-2020, 05:00 PM

My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't.

Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up.

rezburna · 12-06-2020, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I knew that the off field stuff would come in to play in this thread. I honestly wanted to get people's opinion on him since it may be that he's a big reason that the defense is playing so well.

I think it’s the combination of him and Davis. That’s a lot of experience and knowledge at the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense. Somebody should see if they can find out how often Jenkins lines up on the 2nd level.

rezburna · 12-06-2020, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't.

Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up.

Respect.

AsylumGuido · 12-06-2020, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't.

Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up.

That's why I respect you so much, Rugs.

saintsfan1976 · 12-06-2020, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It isn’t the debate. It’s the keeping it going when the individuals involved say it’s over. I don’t utilize the term racist because I recognize racism to be a system. Bigoted or prejudiced is typically more applicable in those cases, but I don’t really care enough about the individual battles to utilize the verbiage on the forum.

I won’t lie to you and act like I don’t get those vibes from a lot posters, but I’ve dealt with those kind of personalities my entire life. I’m numb to it. You’ve always been respectful though. It would be intellectually dishonest on my part not to acknowledge that.

I'm respectful because I respect you Rez. Your background, your experience, your opinion. All things I don't have but they make me a more well rounded person.

At the end of the day what was made of Brees's comments struck me the wrong way. Not because I know Drew personally but I like to believe his intention was pure.

I also understand Malcolm's perspective - the work he's done, the issues, the frustration he must feel seeing the opportunity is right there yet a slide back to status quo is inevitable.

I typically stay away from political banter because today's age it's a no-win proposal. But sometimes I just get aggravated by people's refusal to be more understanding.

Boston Saint · 12-06-2020, 07:07 PM

It’s all easy to say something like “the players have put it behind them, so let go”. But look at the fight that happened at the Florida HS football game this weekend that was basically started by differences of opinions about respecting the flag and kneeling for it. It’s hard to “let go” for some when it is seemingly shoved down the throat by sports figures all the time on social media. Some are sick of athletes like LeBron James making statements about inequity from their Ivory Towers. Frequently those shouting “Let it go!” are the people that got it the way they wanted.

AsylumGuido · 12-06-2020, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It’s all easy to say something like “the players have put it behind them, so let go”. But look at the fight that happened at the Florida HS football game this weekend that was basically started by differences of opinions about respecting the flag and kneeling for it. It’s hard to “let go” for some when it is seemingly shoved down the throat by sports figures all the time on social media. Some are sick of athletes like LeBron James making statements about inequity from their Ivory Towers. Frequently those shouting “Let it go!” are the people that got it the way they wanted.

Sounds like that may have been influenced by parents teaching their children through their own behavior to be intolerant.

Sad.

saintsfan1976 · 12-06-2020, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sounds like that may have been influenced by parents teaching their children through their own behavior to be intolerant.

Sad.

I think Boston made a solid point. Yes it may have come from parents but it also comes from other influences such as sports figures, politicians, media and yes, online message boards.

12-06-2020, 04:55 PM	#81
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by rezburna Anytime Jenkins comes up on this forum it’s prefaced with the reasons people don’t like him. At this point it isn’t football related because he’s looked from average to great since Week 4. I knew that the off field stuff would come in to play in this thread. I honestly wanted to get people's opinion on his play since it may be that he's a big reason that the defense is playing so well.

12-06-2020, 04:58 PM	#82
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Debating isn't instigating. It shouldn't warrant being shot. People who disagree shouldn't be labeled "racists" or "nazis". Those are all ways small-minded people react. It isn’t the debate. It’s the keeping it going when the individuals involved say it’s over. I don’t utilize the term racist because I recognize racism to be a system. Bigoted or prejudiced is typically more applicable in those cases, but I don’t really care enough about the individual battles to utilize the verbiage on the forum. I won’t lie to you and act like I don’t get those vibes from a lot posters, but I’ve dealt with those kind of personalities my entire life. I’m numb to it. You’ve always been respectful though. It would be intellectually dishonest on my part not to acknowledge that. RailBoss, saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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12-06-2020, 05:00 PM	#83
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Malcolm Jenkins My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't. Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up. iceshack149, AsylumGuido and Boston Saint like this.

12-06-2020, 05:01 PM	#84
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by iceshack149 I knew that the off field stuff would come in to play in this thread. I honestly wanted to get people's opinion on him since it may be that he's a big reason that the defense is playing so well. I think it’s the combination of him and Davis. That’s a lot of experience and knowledge at the 2nd and 3rd levels of the defense. Somebody should see if they can find out how often Jenkins lines up on the 2nd level. iceshack149 likes this.

12-06-2020, 05:01 PM	#85
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't. Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up. Respect. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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12-06-2020, 05:03 PM	#86
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My apologies for high jacking the thread. I believe that I was the first person to mention that Jenkins did not go to Drew. Instead he went on social media and put public undue pressure on Drew. Before he ever talked to Drew the world was mad at him. Drew took it well but I didn't. Back on topic MJ has improved his game since Kwon came on board. He's a good chess piece for DA. I just hope can keep it up. That's why I respect you so much, Rugs. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-06-2020, 06:47 PM	#87
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by rezburna It isn’t the debate. It’s the keeping it going when the individuals involved say it’s over. I don’t utilize the term racist because I recognize racism to be a system. Bigoted or prejudiced is typically more applicable in those cases, but I don’t really care enough about the individual battles to utilize the verbiage on the forum. I won’t lie to you and act like I don’t get those vibes from a lot posters, but I’ve dealt with those kind of personalities my entire life. I’m numb to it. You’ve always been respectful though. It would be intellectually dishonest on my part not to acknowledge that. I'm respectful because I respect you Rez. Your background, your experience, your opinion. All things I don't have but they make me a more well rounded person. At the end of the day what was made of Brees's comments struck me the wrong way. Not because I know Drew personally but I like to believe his intention was pure. I also understand Malcolm's perspective - the work he's done, the issues, the frustration he must feel seeing the opportunity is right there yet a slide back to status quo is inevitable. I typically stay away from political banter because today's age it's a no-win proposal. But sometimes I just get aggravated by people's refusal to be more understanding. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-06-2020, 07:07 PM	#88
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Malcolm Jenkins It’s all easy to say something like “the players have put it behind them, so let go”. But look at the fight that happened at the Florida HS football game this weekend that was basically started by differences of opinions about respecting the flag and kneeling for it. It’s hard to “let go” for some when it is seemingly shoved down the throat by sports figures all the time on social media. Some are sick of athletes like LeBron James making statements about inequity from their Ivory Towers. Frequently those shouting “Let it go!” are the people that got it the way they wanted. saintsfan1976 likes this.
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12-06-2020, 08:07 PM	#89
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by Boston Saint It’s all easy to say something like “the players have put it behind them, so let go”. But look at the fight that happened at the Florida HS football game this weekend that was basically started by differences of opinions about respecting the flag and kneeling for it. It’s hard to “let go” for some when it is seemingly shoved down the throat by sports figures all the time on social media. Some are sick of athletes like LeBron James making statements about inequity from their Ivory Towers. Frequently those shouting “Let it go!” are the people that got it the way they wanted. Sounds like that may have been influenced by parents teaching their children through their own behavior to be intolerant. Sad.

12-06-2020, 08:24 PM	#90
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sounds like that may have been influenced by parents teaching their children through their own behavior to be intolerant. Sad. I think Boston made a solid point. Yes it may have come from parents but it also comes from other influences such as sports figures, politicians, media and yes, online message boards.