Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer?

st thomas · 12-15-2020, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Did he fumble more in the pocket or out?

Come on I’m old tell me who?

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AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Come on I’m old tell me who?

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Aaron Brooks. He had 14 fumbles back in 2003. He had at least 11 each year from 2001 through 2004.

K Major · 12-15-2020, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Come on I’m old tell me who?

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WhoDat!656 · 12-15-2020, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Is the play in your gif technically a fumble?

K Major · 12-15-2020, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Is the play in your gif technically a fumble?

Naw, incomplete pass but just having some fun with St. T.

st thomas · 12-15-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Aaron Brooks. He had 14 fumbles back in 2003. He had at least 11 each year from 2001 through 2004.

Lol just say the backwards pass

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dizzle88 · 12-15-2020, 03:35 PM

If you have a spare hour, watch this clip for an assessment on Hill.

I can't say I agreed with everything Deuce Windham said (I don't think he's harsh enough on the O line at times) but most of the stuff he says about Taysom are pretty spot on in terms of tape.

Taysom not being able to read a D pre-snap really makes him defeat himself.

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Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 03:51 PM

It could also be that reading the D pre snap may not be as important as it once was and being a “pocket passer” is outdated. Looking at how QBs like Jackson, Wilson, Allen, and even Rogers have been successful when they extended plays by getting out of the pocket for long throws, I wonder if that’s not the way to go. Isn’t that what Hurts just did to the Saints D?

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If you have a spare hour, watch this clip for an assessment on Hill.

I can't say I agreed with everything Deuce Windham said (I don't think he's harsh enough on the O line at times) but most of the stuff he says about Taysom are pretty spot on in terms of tape.

Taysom not being able to read a D pre-snap really makes him defeat himself.

https://youtu.be/Z92jw7CuJhA

Haven't watched it yet, but Brees' quick decision making would cover many of the blemishes of pretty much any offensive line in the NFL.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It could also be that reading the D pre snap may not be as important as it once was and being a “pocket passer” is outdated. Looking at how QBs like Jackson, Wilson, Allen, and even Rogers have been successful when they extended plays by getting out of the pocket for long throws, I wonder if that’s not the way to go. Isn’t that what Hurts just did to the Saints D?

I wouldn't say so. Do you realize that Hurts managed only the second fewest passing yards (167) given up by the Saints all season? The only QB with less (12) was the Bronco's practice squad WR.

Just saying.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Did he fumble more in the pocket or out? Come on I’m old tell me who? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by st thomas Come on I’m old tell me who? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Aaron Brooks. He had 14 fumbles back in 2003. He had at least 11 each year from 2001 through 2004. st thomas likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by st thomas Come on I’m old tell me who? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk st thomas likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,046 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Is the play in your gif technically a fumble? Naw, incomplete pass but just having some fun with St. T.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Aaron Brooks. He had 14 fumbles back in 2003. He had at least 11 each year from 2001 through 2004. Lol just say the backwards pass Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk K Major likes this.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,874	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? It could also be that reading the D pre snap may not be as important as it once was and being a “pocket passer” is outdated. Looking at how QBs like Jackson, Wilson, Allen, and even Rogers have been successful when they extended plays by getting out of the pocket for long throws, I wonder if that’s not the way to go. Isn’t that what Hurts just did to the Saints D?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by dizzle88 If you have a spare hour, watch this clip for an assessment on Hill. I can't say I agreed with everything Deuce Windham said (I don't think he's harsh enough on the O line at times) but most of the stuff he says about Taysom are pretty spot on in terms of tape. Taysom not being able to read a D pre-snap really makes him defeat himself. https://youtu.be/Z92jw7CuJhA Haven't watched it yet, but Brees' quick decision making would cover many of the blemishes of pretty much any offensive line in the NFL.

12-15-2020, 04:03 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by Boston Saint It could also be that reading the D pre snap may not be as important as it once was and being a “pocket passer” is outdated. Looking at how QBs like Jackson, Wilson, Allen, and even Rogers have been successful when they extended plays by getting out of the pocket for long throws, I wonder if that’s not the way to go. Isn’t that what Hurts just did to the Saints D? I wouldn't say so. Do you realize that Hurts managed only the second fewest passing yards (167) given up by the Saints all season? The only QB with less (12) was the Bronco's practice squad WR. Just saying.