Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer?

Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 04:17 PM

Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic?

Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 04:19 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot a guy named Mahomes in that list.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic?

You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 04:41 PM

Andrew Luck

Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 04:43 PM

Dan Marino, Dan Faust, Jim Kelly, Warren moon.

Rsanders24 · 12-15-2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

Change is it inevitable. Big difference between a mobile QB and a running QB. Now days the QB has to be mobile. Look at the QBs that are having success now...Wilson, Rodgers, Pat Homes, J Allen. Even Big Ben was mobile until injuries slowed him down. It’s just the evolution of the game.

Even in college FB they are looking for mobile QBs. None of the top QBs are pocket only QBs.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Andrew Luck

Immobile pocket passer, right? Won as many championships as the ones you named other than Mahomes who has cut back on his scrambling. He's is an outlier anyway because of his conservative nature. Even with him longevity can be an issue.

Boston Saint · 12-15-2020, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Dan Marino, Dan Faust, Jim Kelly, Warren moon.

Don't get your point there. Awesome QB's. Extremely successful. What am I missing, Boston?

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2020, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future.

And how many are going to be a future? That is yet to be seen. A short run? Yeah. I can see that. Today is a throwaway society. Why not do the same with QB's, I suppose. NFL dynasties have been built on long lasting QB's. That may be over.

12-15-2020, 04:17 PM	#31
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic? Rsanders24 likes this.

12-15-2020, 04:19 PM	#32
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Oh yeah, I forgot a guy named Mahomes in that list.

12-15-2020, 04:25 PM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Ok, but discarding Hurts, don’t you think that my point about the success of the QBs I listed, along with Murray, mayfield, and others leans validity to the idea of the traditional, immobile, pocket passer being more a relic? You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future.

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Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Andrew Luck

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12-15-2020, 04:43 PM	#36
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future. Change is it inevitable. Big difference between a mobile QB and a running QB. Now days the QB has to be mobile. Look at the QBs that are having success now...Wilson, Rodgers, Pat Homes, J Allen. Even Big Ben was mobile until injuries slowed him down. It’s just the evolution of the game. Even in college FB they are looking for mobile QBs. None of the top QBs are pocket only QBs.

12-15-2020, 04:48 PM	#37
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Andrew Luck Immobile pocket passer, right? Won as many championships as the ones you named other than Mahomes who has cut back on his scrambling. He's is an outlier anyway because of his conservative nature. Even with him longevity can be an issue.

12-15-2020, 04:49 PM	#38
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You mean like Robert Griffin III and that guy Kaepernick? Let's see some longevity before deciding it's the future. I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future.

12-15-2020, 04:51 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Dan Marino, Dan Faust, Jim Kelly, Warren moon. Don't get your point there. Awesome QB's. Extremely successful. What am I missing, Boston?

12-15-2020, 04:55 PM	#40
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Taysom Hill - The Pocket Passer? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I just named a good 5 starting QBs that aren’t pocket passers including starters for many of the Super Bowl favorites and you want longevity ? Take away Rothlesburger Brees, and Brady ( all relics) and there aren’t any teams (Goff maybe) that are going with traditional pocket passers as their future. And how many are going to be a future? That is yet to be seen. A short run? Yeah. I can see that. Today is a throwaway society. Why not do the same with QB's, I suppose. NFL dynasties have been built on long lasting QB's. That may be over.