Drew’s Final Regular Season Game?

Thirty3 · 01-04-2021, 07:55 PM

I'd like to see Brees one more year. Then Taysom. Draft a QB to develop - bye bye winston.

Thirty3 · 01-04-2021, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What y'all are looking past is that Payton and Brees have been attached at the hip through the entire Saints run of success. When Brees calls it quits I can easily see Payton doing the same soon thereafter, albeit moving to another franchise. Payton to Dallas when Brees retires? I can see that happen.

Why would ANY head coach leave this team? Especially Payton. They are set for some years to come with great players. Brees went down last year. Team won 6 in a row. Went down this year the team went 3 and 1. Grass is greener somewhere else is either HUGE money or family.

Boston Saint · 01-04-2021, 08:17 PM

My selfish feelings mixed with payroll realities would be that Drew returns next year (after a second Super Bowl MVP) and they draft a QB. A year under Brees and Payton and year 2 he’s ready to go. That allows signings for Latt, Ram, etc. Calloway is a player, so with him Thomas and Kamara the O should be able to keep going.

TheOak · 01-05-2021, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Unless my understanding is very wrong the Saints are very limited in their QB options next year based on Brees current contract. Options are

1) He plays as QB next year under current or renegotiated deal.
2) A new QB drafted and playing under a Rookie contract is the starter.
3) Taysom Hill
4) Winston or some other QB who will be willing to play for about 5 million dollars because Brees counts 20 + mill against the cap even if he isn’t on the team.

In the world of probability this is correct; in the world of possibility with Loomis and Payton, we could see Peat or Brady under center next year.

Ignore how we generally look at the cap because the cap is set based on previous years revenues. While the cap has historically increased year over year, 2020 is the first down revenue year in quite some time, expect the cap to be lowered +/- 20-25MM.

A 20MM reduced cap is going to put some talent on the streets for all teams.

spkb25 · 01-05-2021, 06:40 AM

Drew Brees, you talking about the sellout? I won't say how I really feel because I'll lose my announcer position.

Bend over when told to STFU by a teammate really shows his sensitive side

lee909 · 01-05-2021, 12:16 PM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/overthe...situation/amp/

If Brees is 100% certain he is going to retire the Saints can reduce his salary to the league minimum of $1.075 million. That would allow the Saints to drop his salary cap number from $36.15 million to $12.2225 million a savings of $23.925 million. The team would have to carry Brees as an active player until June 2nd at which point they would officially place him on the retired list and receive the June 1 cap benefit. Rather than taking on $22.65 million in dead money in 2021 the team would only have an $11.15 million charge for Brees in 2021 and $11.5 million in 2022.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2021, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

https://www.google.com/amp/s/overthe...situation/amp/

If Brees is 100% certain he is going to retire the Saints can reduce his salary to the league minimum of $1.075 million. That would allow the Saints to drop his salary cap number from $36.15 million to $12.2225 million a savings of $23.925 million. The team would have to carry Brees as an active player until June 2nd at which point they would officially place him on the retired list and receive the June 1 cap benefit. Rather than taking on $22.65 million in dead money in 2021 the team would only have an $11.15 million charge for Brees in 2021 and $11.5 million in 2022.

Brees has repeated that he is going to approach this off-season in exactly the same manner as the past several. Once the season is over he is going to take a few weeks to assess things. He said he would once again determine if he still loved the game, evaluate his play, and evaluate his health after that period of reflection. If he feels that all three are positive he is likely to return. If any of those are not to his liking he may make the decision to retire. Only he and his family will have any idea of what his plans are at that time. All of this talk about "expected to retire" is just that ... talk.

gulfgambler · 01-05-2021, 12:41 PM

AG, Brees is as competitive as they come. He will always love the game.
As for his level of play, he is and would be next year playing at an elite level.
He's still healthy, despite the injuries received the past two seasons.
Family; I don't think his kids want him to quit yet, there at the ages where they love being part of this ride. His wife I think is neutral.

C'mon Drew, you still got it. I would like to be able to attend at least
one more game LIVE before your done.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2021, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

AG, Brees is as competitive as they come. He will always love the game.
As for his level of play, he is and would be next year playing at an elite level.
He's still healthy, despite the injuries received the past two seasons.
Family; I don't think his kids want him to quit yet, there at the ages where they love being part of this ride. His wife I think is neutral.

C'mon Drew, you still got it. I would like to be able to attend at least
one more game LIVE before your done.

I am right there with all of those assessments, gulfgambler.

lee909 · 01-05-2021, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees has repeated that he is going to approach this off-season in exactly the same manner as the past several. Once the season is over he is going to take a few weeks to assess things. He said he would once again determine if he still loved the game, evaluate his play, and evaluate his health after that period of reflection. If he feels that all three are positive he is likely to return. If any of those are not to his liking he may make the decision to retire. Only he and his family will have any idea of what his plans are at that time. All of this talk about "expected to retire" is just that ... talk.

My post had nothing to do if he walks really or not. Just something to show if he does the option is in place to not eat all the dead money in one season.

Personally I think if he does walk you try to eat as much as you can in one year and use the year to rebuild asap to set up long term success. But that's a story for a different thread. The team cannot afford to not be looking at the possibility he doesn't return though.

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01-04-2021, 08:00 PM	#62
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What y'all are looking past is that Payton and Brees have been attached at the hip through the entire Saints run of success. When Brees calls it quits I can easily see Payton doing the same soon thereafter, albeit moving to another franchise. Payton to Dallas when Brees retires? I can see that happen. Why would ANY head coach leave this team? Especially Payton. They are set for some years to come with great players. Brees went down last year. Team won 6 in a row. Went down this year the team went 3 and 1. Grass is greener somewhere else is either HUGE money or family.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Unless my understanding is very wrong the Saints are very limited in their QB options next year based on Brees current contract. Options are 1) He plays as QB next year under current or renegotiated deal. 2) A new QB drafted and playing under a Rookie contract is the starter. 3) Taysom Hill 4) Winston or some other QB who will be willing to play for about 5 million dollars because Brees counts 20 + mill against the cap even if he isn’t on the team. In the world of probability this is correct; in the world of possibility with Loomis and Payton, we could see Peat or Brady under center next year. Ignore how we generally look at the cap because the cap is set based on previous years revenues. While the cap has historically increased year over year, 2020 is the first down revenue year in quite some time, expect the cap to be lowered +/- 20-25MM. A 20MM reduced cap is going to put some talent on the streets for all teams.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? https://www.google.com/amp/s/overthe...situation/amp/ If Brees is 100% certain he is going to retire the Saints can reduce his salary to the league minimum of $1.075 million. That would allow the Saints to drop his salary cap number from $36.15 million to $12.2225 million a savings of $23.925 million. The team would have to carry Brees as an active player until June 2nd at which point they would officially place him on the retired list and receive the June 1 cap benefit. Rather than taking on $22.65 million in dead money in 2021 the team would only have an $11.15 million charge for Brees in 2021 and $11.5 million in 2022.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? Originally Posted by lee909 https://www.google.com/amp/s/overthe...situation/amp/ If Brees is 100% certain he is going to retire the Saints can reduce his salary to the league minimum of $1.075 million. That would allow the Saints to drop his salary cap number from $36.15 million to $12.2225 million a savings of $23.925 million. The team would have to carry Brees as an active player until June 2nd at which point they would officially place him on the retired list and receive the June 1 cap benefit. Rather than taking on $22.65 million in dead money in 2021 the team would only have an $11.15 million charge for Brees in 2021 and $11.5 million in 2022. Brees has repeated that he is going to approach this off-season in exactly the same manner as the past several. Once the season is over he is going to take a few weeks to assess things. He said he would once again determine if he still loved the game, evaluate his play, and evaluate his health after that period of reflection. If he feels that all three are positive he is likely to return. If any of those are not to his liking he may make the decision to retire. Only he and his family will have any idea of what his plans are at that time. All of this talk about "expected to retire" is just that ... talk.
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gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? AG, Brees is as competitive as they come. He will always love the game. As for his level of play, he is and would be next year playing at an elite level. He's still healthy, despite the injuries received the past two seasons. Family; I don't think his kids want him to quit yet, there at the ages where they love being part of this ride. His wife I think is neutral. C'mon Drew, you still got it. I would like to be able to attend at least one more game LIVE before your done. iceshack149 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? Originally Posted by gulfgambler AG, Brees is as competitive as they come. He will always love the game. As for his level of play, he is and would be next year playing at an elite level. He's still healthy, despite the injuries received the past two seasons. Family; I don't think his kids want him to quit yet, there at the ages where they love being part of this ride. His wife I think is neutral. C'mon Drew, you still got it. I would like to be able to attend at least one more game LIVE before your done. I am right there with all of those assessments, gulfgambler. gulfgambler likes this.

01-05-2021, 02:48 PM	#70
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew’s Final Regular Season Game? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees has repeated that he is going to approach this off-season in exactly the same manner as the past several. Once the season is over he is going to take a few weeks to assess things. He said he would once again determine if he still loved the game, evaluate his play, and evaluate his health after that period of reflection. If he feels that all three are positive he is likely to return. If any of those are not to his liking he may make the decision to retire. Only he and his family will have any idea of what his plans are at that time. All of this talk about "expected to retire" is just that ... talk. My post had nothing to do if he walks really or not. Just something to show if he does the option is in place to not eat all the dead money in one season. Personally I think if he does walk you try to eat as much as you can in one year and use the year to rebuild asap to set up long term success. But that's a story for a different thread. The team cannot afford to not be looking at the possibility he doesn't return though. Boston Saint likes this.