Arrington Steal of the Draft

gandhi1007 · 05-01-2008, 03:45 PM

He was a very solid pick. Good size & good hands. I wouldn't compare him to Colston, though. The only receiver in this year's draft class that I would compare to Colston is Marcus Monk from Arkansas. I really wish we would have got him too. He's going to be a good one.

RickyInKenner · 05-01-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I strongly disagree. Having won numerous touch football championships for years, I make the following observations...

CANNOT BE COACHED
Depth preception and body control.
Running full speed with great hand eye cordination.
Jumping for the ball and timing it at it's highest point.
Sensing the defender and positioning yourself to protect the football in a 1/10 of a second.
Laying out for the football correctly.
Controlled precise/cuts routes.
Making spectacular catches look routine.
Speed.
Hand size.

CAN BE COACHED
Learing the playbook.
Looking the ball into your hands and reading Wilson before you run.
Setting up the defender with your route.

Danny Abramowitz once said that a good receiver concentrates on catching the football and a great receiver concentrates on concentrating on catching the football, and their is a difference.

Can concentration be coached? With Devery, sadly, it's always been a work in progress. Still, minus his drops, he is a great receiver with his Ave Yards and TD to catch %.

pretty much everything you listed you can coach, except for the stupid stuff that does not matter (like hand size).

you CAN learn how to time your jumps. you CAN fine tune your routes. you CAN improve ball skills. you can even improve your speed. look at TJ hoosh frmo the bengals. he did some free flo do type of **** in the offseason and got ridic faster.

saintsrule · 05-01-2008, 06:30 PM

I hope Arrington, Colston, and Meachum make the best trio in the league. I hope they open up things for Bush, and Bush opens up things for them.

gptsaintsfan · 05-01-2008, 06:40 PM

I'm more excited about watching Arrington than Meachem come Training Camp! I got a bad feeling that over the next couple of years meachem will go down as a jonathan sullivan type of player--bust. Just my thoughts.

CantonLegend · 05-01-2008, 06:53 PM

i think that meachem will step up and be a threat this year in the slot and split time with patton as the 2nd wideout....i think arrington will make the team and take either lance moore or terrance coppers spot...i just dont think he will step in and be the play maker we are looking for...i do think he was a steal tho

foreverfan · 05-01-2008, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by RickyInKenner

pretty much everything you listed you can coach, except for the stupid stuff that does not matter (like hand size).

you CAN learn how to time your jumps. you CAN fine tune your routes. you CAN improve ball skills. you can even improve your speed. look at TJ hoosh frmo the bengals. he did some free flo do type of **** in the offseason and got ridic faster.

Well, for every one player that you can teach these things to, there are 100s of other that will never make the entire adjustment to the pros no matter how much coaching you give them. Just because the coach trys to teach somebody something, doesn't mean that the player will be able to do it consistantly and sucessfully. I'm not saying that you can't get better, it's just that the really great ones, do this stuff naturally and effortlessly. That's why Costson made the adjustment quickly and Devery never will.

But don't get me wrong, success is usually desguised as hard work.

RickyInKenner · 05-01-2008, 08:23 PM

well I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you want something bad enough, you'll get it done. if a player wants to be faster, he can get faster. through various methods. just an example.

CantonLegend · 05-01-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by RickyInKenner

well I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you want something bad enough, you'll get it done. if a player wants to be faster, he can get faster. through various methods. just an example.

theres no denying that working on something can help but the 4.3-40s cant be taught...somebody that fast is talented and it doesnt come from the constantly working at it....arrington doesnt have that kinda speed and he doesnt have the speed to separate like devery henderson...i think that arrington will take a spot on the roster....just not a starting spot

RickyInKenner · 05-01-2008, 08:45 PM

TJ whos your momma increased his 40 time by like...a full second lol.

CantonLegend · 05-01-2008, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by RickyInKenner

TJ whos your momma increased his 40 time by like...a full second lol.

from 4.7 to 4.6?.....is that what he did....and how come ur so big on the bengals man?....if u shave off some poundage u can get a little faster dude...im not sayin its impossible...im just sayin real speed like devin hester and reggie cant be taught

05-01-2008, 03:45 PM	#31
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft He was a very solid pick. Good size & good hands. I wouldn't compare him to Colston, though. The only receiver in this year's draft class that I would compare to Colston is Marcus Monk from Arkansas. I really wish we would have got him too. He's going to be a good one.

05-01-2008, 06:27 PM	#32
RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft Originally Posted by foreverfan I strongly disagree. Having won numerous touch football championships for years, I make the following observations... CANNOT BE COACHED Depth preception and body control. Running full speed with great hand eye cordination. Jumping for the ball and timing it at it's highest point. Sensing the defender and positioning yourself to protect the football in a 1/10 of a second. Laying out for the football correctly. Controlled precise/cuts routes. Making spectacular catches look routine. Speed. Hand size. CAN BE COACHED Learing the playbook. Looking the ball into your hands and reading Wilson before you run. Setting up the defender with your route. Danny Abramowitz once said that a good receiver concentrates on catching the football and a great receiver concentrates on concentrating on catching the football, and their is a difference. Can concentration be coached? With Devery, sadly, it's always been a work in progress. Still, minus his drops, he is a great receiver with his Ave Yards and TD to catch %. pretty much everything you listed you can coach, except for the stupid stuff that does not matter (like hand size). you CAN learn how to time your jumps. you CAN fine tune your routes. you CAN improve ball skills. you can even improve your speed. look at TJ hoosh frmo the bengals. he did some free flo do type of **** in the offseason and got ridic faster.
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05-01-2008, 06:30 PM	#33
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft I hope Arrington, Colston, and Meachum make the best trio in the league. I hope they open up things for Bush, and Bush opens up things for them.
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05-01-2008, 06:40 PM	#34
gptsaintsfan THE BEAST Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 85	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft I'm more excited about watching Arrington than Meachem come Training Camp! I got a bad feeling that over the next couple of years meachem will go down as a jonathan sullivan type of player--bust. Just my thoughts.

05-01-2008, 06:53 PM	#35
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft i think that meachem will step up and be a threat this year in the slot and split time with patton as the 2nd wideout....i think arrington will make the team and take either lance moore or terrance coppers spot...i just dont think he will step in and be the play maker we are looking for...i do think he was a steal tho

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft Originally Posted by RickyInKenner pretty much everything you listed you can coach, except for the stupid stuff that does not matter (like hand size). you CAN learn how to time your jumps. you CAN fine tune your routes. you CAN improve ball skills. you can even improve your speed. look at TJ hoosh frmo the bengals. he did some free flo do type of **** in the offseason and got ridic faster. Well, for every one player that you can teach these things to, there are 100s of other that will never make the entire adjustment to the pros no matter how much coaching you give them. Just because the coach trys to teach somebody something, doesn't mean that the player will be able to do it consistantly and sucessfully. I'm not saying that you can't get better, it's just that the really great ones, do this stuff naturally and effortlessly. That's why Costson made the adjustment quickly and Devery never will. But don't get me wrong, success is usually desguised as hard work.
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05-01-2008, 08:23 PM	#37
RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft well I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you want something bad enough, you'll get it done. if a player wants to be faster, he can get faster. through various methods. just an example.
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05-01-2008, 08:39 PM	#38
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft Originally Posted by RickyInKenner well I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you want something bad enough, you'll get it done. if a player wants to be faster, he can get faster. through various methods. just an example. theres no denying that working on something can help but the 4.3-40s cant be taught...somebody that fast is talented and it doesnt come from the constantly working at it....arrington doesnt have that kinda speed and he doesnt have the speed to separate like devery henderson...i think that arrington will take a spot on the roster....just not a starting spot

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RickyInKenner Registered Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft TJ whos your momma increased his 40 time by like...a full second lol.
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05-01-2008, 08:56 PM	#40
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Arrington Steal of the Draft Originally Posted by RickyInKenner TJ whos your momma increased his 40 time by like...a full second lol. from 4.7 to 4.6?.....is that what he did....and how come ur so big on the bengals man?....if u shave off some poundage u can get a little faster dude...im not sayin its impossible...im just sayin real speed like devin hester and reggie cant be taught