Offensive Playcall Concerns

Halo · 10-04-2009, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back.

Agreed. We haven't been able to depend on the defense to make plays for years. I also agree that we played a good defense this week and last.

Going into the bye 4 and 0 is a dream.

Euphoria · 10-04-2009, 08:53 PM

Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

saintsfan1976 · 10-04-2009, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

FireVenturi · 10-04-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

play calling could have been better. With that kind of pressure there should have been more quick slants.

Also, would like to have seen more Pierre screens and TE screens.

B_Dub_Saint · 10-04-2009, 10:28 PM

It had nothing to do with the 4th and 1's. It was the bullsh!t conservative play calling in the 3rd quarter. Dont get me wrong, I am more than happy about 4-0, but we have to put the dagger in the hearts of other teams to seal the win. The #1 offense has been shut down by 2 good D's the past couple of weeks, but thats no excuse for the plays that were called in the 3rd. JMHO

gumbeau · 10-05-2009, 07:06 AM

Lets see...last couple of years rather silly play calling on offense and mediocre defense has resulted in no playoffs.

This year so far the defense is playing well and the offense isn't taking chances and the Saints are 4-0.

I'm pretty sure I'll take this style.

Drew Brees looked down field several times and checked down because there was no reason to heave the ball unless the receiver was wide open.

No interceptions.

No need for quick slants when Pierre Thomas is averaging 4 yards a carry.

Even Reggie Bush averaged 6 yards a carry.

I think it is a sign of coaching maturity that the Saints don't give games away.

skymike · 10-05-2009, 07:11 AM

I liked it.

Payton HAD to go for it on 4th. We told him to from the stands. Blame us.

gumbeau · 10-05-2009, 07:16 AM

Couple ways to look at 4th and 1.

If you don't make it your defense has an opportunity and as we saw that opportunity pretty much sealed the game.

If the Saints kick a field goal then the Jets get a chance on Special teams.

Right now I'd rather trust the defense to pin a rookie QB in the endzone than a suspect Special Teams unit.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 07:20 AM

special teams and the kicking game is there for a reason......we went for it 3 times on 4th down against the jets instead of taking the points

always always take the points.....it'll come back to help later.....against the giants we wont be so lucky....we need to start playing smarter football from the top down

carney is one of the most accurate kickers in the league...he isnt known for having the strongest leg but the longest fg we would've attempted was 48 yards and that is easily in carney's range......

morestead is one of the best young punters in the league and he has the leg to pin any team back from almost anywhere on the field.....why didnt we punt or kick more?......stupid

Saint_LB · 10-05-2009, 07:23 AM

I don't think anything has changed much with Payton...once a gambler always a gambler. I watch the Giants a lot and there is no doubt in my mind that Coughlin would have opted for the FG's in those situations. If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back. (I'm a Carney fan, though, and I think he would've nailed it.)

The difference, however, is the defense...and anyone who denies it hasn't been paying attention. I love the style of defense we are playing now and wonder why it took so long. In the past, the defense would've folded and Payton would pay for his risk-taking, but this defense has his back.

This team is for real.

10-04-2009, 07:03 PM	#11
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,228 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by papz Back when the defense was that bad, I think he would have punted. Now that we have a respectable defense, we can afford to take some chances. If those plays would have went our way, the game could have been blown wide open. It's quite comforting to know the defense has the offense's back. Agreed. We haven't been able to depend on the defense to make plays for years. I also agree that we played a good defense this week and last. Going into the bye 4 and 0 is a dream.

10-04-2009, 08:53 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,539 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by Euphoria Play calling was good... its easy to second guess someone after the fact. You have to credit the Jets D they are a good group and well coached.

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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Originally Posted by Budsdrinker play calling could have been better. With that kind of pressure there should have been more quick slants. Also, would like to have seen more Pierre screens and TE screens.

10-04-2009, 10:28 PM	#15
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns It had nothing to do with the 4th and 1's. It was the bullsh!t conservative play calling in the 3rd quarter. Dont get me wrong, I am more than happy about 4-0, but we have to put the dagger in the hearts of other teams to seal the win. The #1 offense has been shut down by 2 good D's the past couple of weeks, but thats no excuse for the plays that were called in the 3rd. JMHO

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10-05-2009, 07:06 AM	#16
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 518	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Lets see...last couple of years rather silly play calling on offense and mediocre defense has resulted in no playoffs. This year so far the defense is playing well and the offense isn't taking chances and the Saints are 4-0. I'm pretty sure I'll take this style. Drew Brees looked down field several times and checked down because there was no reason to heave the ball unless the receiver was wide open. No interceptions. No need for quick slants when Pierre Thomas is averaging 4 yards a carry. Even Reggie Bush averaged 6 yards a carry. I think it is a sign of coaching maturity that the Saints don't give games away.

10-05-2009, 07:11 AM	#17
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns I liked it. Payton HAD to go for it on 4th. We told him to from the stands. Blame us.

10-05-2009, 07:16 AM	#18
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 518	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns Couple ways to look at 4th and 1. If you don't make it your defense has an opportunity and as we saw that opportunity pretty much sealed the game. If the Saints kick a field goal then the Jets get a chance on Special teams. Right now I'd rather trust the defense to pin a rookie QB in the endzone than a suspect Special Teams unit.

10-05-2009, 07:20 AM	#19
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns special teams and the kicking game is there for a reason......we went for it 3 times on 4th down against the jets instead of taking the points always always take the points.....it'll come back to help later.....against the giants we wont be so lucky....we need to start playing smarter football from the top down carney is one of the most accurate kickers in the league...he isnt known for having the strongest leg but the longest fg we would've attempted was 48 yards and that is easily in carney's range...... morestead is one of the best young punters in the league and he has the leg to pin any team back from almost anywhere on the field.....why didnt we punt or kick more?......stupid
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10-05-2009, 07:23 AM	#20
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Offensive Playcall Concerns I don't think anything has changed much with Payton...once a gambler always a gambler. I watch the Giants a lot and there is no doubt in my mind that Coughlin would have opted for the FG's in those situations. If Carney can't make 'em from 47, then we need to get Hartley back. (I'm a Carney fan, though, and I think he would've nailed it.) The difference, however, is the defense...and anyone who denies it hasn't been paying attention. I love the style of defense we are playing now and wonder why it took so long. In the past, the defense would've folded and Payton would pay for his risk-taking, but this defense has his back. This team is for real.
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