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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre $$$$ - guarantee the money and Nick will show... ...like I said earlier, this is Philly beat writer making hay... I wouldn't be too sure about it just being speculation. Philly needs a RB in the ...

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Old 05-08-2017, 08:15 PM   #61
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$$$$ - guarantee the money and Nick will show...

...like I said earlier, this is Philly beat writer making hay...
I wouldn't be too sure about it just being speculation. Philly needs a RB in the worst way and I heard from other places before now that the Saints tried to trade Ingram earlier this spring with no success because the draft was deep at running back. With Philly not adequately addressing that position on draft day, I can see them as trade partners.

Come on guys, there is obviously a pattern here. Saints trade up to draft a RB who is better than Ingram in every way and also sign Adrian Peterson. Doesn't this look reminiscent of when they drafted Ingram when Bush was on the roster. Also, look at the fact that every malcontent has been cut or traded away. Galette, Lofton, Graham, Cooks, Lewis etc. It's clear Payton doesn't like insubordination or being challenged by his players. Anybody remember the many outbursts Ingram has had on the sidelines and I think the last one against the Cardinals was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Trust me when I say this....they're definitely trying to rid themselves of Ingram. Anybody with a me personality is being weeded out. Besides, it took Ingram like 5 years to finally get 1000 yds. People can say it's because he didn't get enough carries but I think the fact that he couldn't stay healthy is the reason he didn't get the lion's share of the carries. If Peterson is anywhere near his old self, Ingram is on the way out either this season or the next. There's no need for two workhorses and the pass catching role will be taken over by Kamara. Eventually, Kamara will take over full-time as the 3 down back.
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I just got back from the gym. I wasn't able to respond earlier when I found out.
What period do you have gym?
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Trust me when I say this....they're definitely trying to rid themselves of Ingram.
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I wouldn't be too sure about it just being speculation. Philly needs a RB in the worst way and I heard from other places before now that the Saints tried to trade Ingram earlier this spring with no success because the draft was deep at running back. With Philly not adequately addressing that position on draft day, I can see them as trade partners.

Come on guys, there is obviously a pattern here. Saints trade up to draft a RB who is better than Ingram in every way and also sign Adrian Peterson. Doesn't this look reminiscent of when they drafted Ingram when Bush was on the roster. Also, look at the fact that every malcontent has been cut or traded away. Galette, Lofton, Graham, Cooks, Lewis etc. It's clear Payton doesn't like insubordination or being challenged by his players. Anybody remember the many outbursts Ingram has had on the sidelines and I think the last one against the Cardinals was the straw that broke the camel's back.

Trust me when I say this....they're definitely trying to rid themselves of Ingram. Anybody with a me personality is being weeded out. Besides, it took Ingram like 5 years to finally get 1000 yds. People can say it's because he didn't get enough carries but I think the fact that he couldn't stay healthy is the reason he didn't get the lion's share of the carries. If Peterson is anywhere near his old self, Ingram is on the way out either this season or the next. There's no need for two workhorses and the pass catching role will be taken over by Kamara. Eventually, Kamara will take over full-time as the 3 down back.
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Philly couldn't sign AP? They couldn't have take Kamara before us? They didn't want Mixon, Lacy, Murray, Woodhead, Blount?
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:15 PM   #65
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Mark Ingram is such a tremendously high-character and beloved teammate... Trading him would be a massive mistake morale-wise. Say what you want about his on-field performances, but he's nothing short of a perfect role model off the field.
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Mark Ingram is such a tremendously high-character and beloved teammate... Trading him would be a massive mistake morale-wise. Say what you want about his on-field performances, but he's nothing short of a perfect role model off the field.
I heard that he got pissed in the game against the Cards. But that's all I know of. Except him getting pissed after he got tackled so close to busting one for a big gainer (which doesn't bother me a bit because it seems he's pissed at himself), I don't know of any more. If there were several times when he threw a fit on the sidelines, I don't know about them.

I've never seen him get in trouble off the field. I haven't seen any tweets that were ill willed or showcased some sort of antisocial or passive aggressive attitude.

I'm not saying he hasn't done any of the above. I just haven't seen anything except the Cards game when he was doing a lot of the running in the middle of the field and Hightower was punching them in near the goal line. I didn't like that because a score is a score. But that's all I know of.

And he reacted well to the benching he got and came back running like a psycho.

I like Ingram and don't understand all the hate on the guy. If I'm wrong please enlighten me.
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Trust me when I say this....
Why? Are you the guy who wrote that article in the first place?

Two unknown quantities are going to come in and take over the rushing responsibilities while the Saints dump their only experienced runner on the chance the center may not be ready for the season? Really?
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Likely miss a few games but he could be in great shape when he returns. Cardio he can do pool and still do leg exercises barring squats. It's also early so plenty of time to prep and front load someone else. If it happened mid season way more devastating. This scenario we likely get two centers with a slight drop in skill. Not that concerned about it but anymore frontline losses and gonna be another long one.
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Why? Are you the guy who wrote that article in the first place?

Two unknown quantities are going to come in and take over the rushing responsibilities while the Saints dump their only experienced runner on the chance the center may not be ready for the season? Really?
I wouldn't call a HOF RB an unknown quantity. Once upon a time Ingram was an unknown quantity by that logic when we let Bush walk. I think Peterson is here to bridge the gap between this year and next year. Cooks being traded should all but tell you how Payton feels about players who complain about not getting the ball which Ingram has done multiple times during the game on the sidelines throwing fits. It's embarrassing to Payton and the coaching staff and it makes the team look bad.
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