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Old 06-20-2017, 10:25 AM   #61
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Calm down. Look at more boob and cat video's while becoming an expert on torn labrums! Concentrate on the important issues ike " Are We 7 - 9 or 0 - 0?" You know, the stuff that wins "Championships"
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:50 AM   #62
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The reality is that we fail in life despite our best efforts. When that happens you don't want to talk about your failure as if it is a success. You want to acknowledge how hard you fought and what you did better from the last time you failed. Then you want to work harder to succeed. Never has it worked to simply ignore your failures as if they don't exist. Doing that is delusional. You have to be honest with yourself so that you can improve. Some people on this board have an inability to do that and when others pull back that thin veil from their delusions they lash out.
You are once again acting like how you perceive things can have any affect on future outcomes. You have no impact. Nothing. Nada. What you said was true ... IF we were somehow empowered to have anything to do with how the Saints franchise is run. You don't get that. Looking back at failures as a fan is doing nothing but wallowing in negativity. There can be NO positives by the action as a fan.

You, my friend, are the one that is delusional.

Delusional

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He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought his constant highlighting of past failures could have any positive affect on matters totally out of his control.

Until the point in time when you become General Manager of the Saints you are spinning your wheels and pissing into the wind.

Myself, I am totally realistic. I know for a fact that there is nothing at all that I, or any other fan, can do personally to improve the fortune of my beloved Saints. Therefore, I choose to treat it as it is in reality ... entertainment. I get the most out of entertainment when looking at it in a positive manner. It makes me feel good. I can see reality.

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:37 PM   #63
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You are once again acting like how you perceive things can have any affect on future outcomes. You have no impact. Nothing. Nada. What you said was true ... IF we were somehow empowered to have anything to do with how the Saints franchise is run. You don't get that. Looking back at failures as a fan is doing nothing but wallowing in negativity. There can be NO positives by the action as a fan.

You, my friend, are the one that is delusional.

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Fans believing that they have any affect on future success of their favorite franchise are delusional.
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He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought his constant highlighting of past failures could have any positive affect on matters totally out of his control.

Until the point in time when you become General Manager of the Saints you are spinning your wheels and pissing into the wind.

Myself, I am totally realistic. I know for a fact that there is nothing at all that I, or any other fan, can do personally to improve the fortune of my beloved Saints. Therefore, I choose to treat it as it is in reality ... entertainment. I get the most out of entertainment when looking at it in a positive manner. It makes me feel good. I can see reality.
No one on this board does any of these things. We simply state the true prospects of the team taking into account their recent failure. Ignoring failures isn't positive, it is delusional. We are 7-9 3 straight years. That is who we are until we aren't.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:02 PM   #64
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No one on this board does any of these things. We simply state the true prospects of the team taking into account their recent failure. Ignoring failures isn't positive, it is delusional. We are 7-9 3 straight years. That is who we are until we aren't.
No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. So you agree that looking at past failures, something that you are obsessed with, has no impact on the future success of our team?

You have the total right to look at the world in any manner you choose. You can believe the current roster is 7-9. Fine. Pessimistic and negative.

Myself, I look at the current roster as 0-0 at this point and with all sorts of potential. Optimistic and positive.

I am also the realist between us. I know that nothing I can do or say can affect the success of the team at all as you have been implying all along.

And disregarding failures by a professional football team in the past is what a fan should do. Why waste energy and time worrying about things that you cannot affect. It is best to look ahead and hope for the best.

Tell me, exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:20 PM   #65
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No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. [/B]
Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life.

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Calm down. Look at more boob and cat video's while becoming an expert on torn labrums! Concentrate on the important issues ike " Are We 7 - 9 or 0 - 0?" You know, the stuff that wins "Championships"
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Correct and that is what people should do.That is what the Saints should do. That is what we as fans should do when discussing the Saints and our expectations. You on the other hand have stated you ignore failures and such while simply pumping sunshine. You're shallow hal, except this is real life.

Grow up Peter Pan
I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish. The statement you made above about what the Saints should do is the only one of which I could agree. And they have obviously done just that with the personnel changes they have made over the past two years.

Yes, those things that are seen from the outside as negative matters can be discussed, but you go far beyond that realm. You obsess over them and constantly bring them up again and again and again. Fine we have all heard your tired old story so many times before. Time to move on from the past. There is nothing any of us can do to change it and there is nothing any of us can do to change the future of the success of the team. You kept saying that we have to study the failure of the past so we can make the future better. That is fairy tale land there, buddy, and you finally realized it. You have changed your tune. Fine. It has been discussed by you ad nauseam.

But, back to the bold question which you ignored ...

Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?

“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill
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I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. [/B]
No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.
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No, this is a lie that has already been addressed. You stated previously on here how your "positivity" helped you heal the cancer. I am just talking about what you said. It isn't negativity you seek to avoid, it is reality. You have an inability to deal with it per your own words. You live in a made up world shallow hal.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Are you for real? My cancer was never "healed". It was successfully removed via surgery (along with a section of my lovely colon). Show me exactly "in my own words" where I have an inability to deal with reality. You are so full of crap. You get trapped into a corner by straight forward logic and then you turn to making up falsities.

Now, once again ...

Exactly what tangible anything do you have to gain by constantly referencing the negatives associated with the Saints?
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