NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

Beastmode · 08-14-2018, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements.

Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point.

rezburna · 08-14-2018, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point.

If we trade places socioeconomically White people can have a White History Summer for all I care. Everyday at school was White History Day for me. Spain, France, Italy, England, all the way to America.

rezburna · 08-14-2018, 04:55 PM

I just commented because I saw my name though. Y’all can have the conversation back. Black hatred of Whites being what’s wrong with America shifted to the entire world...so that’s where it left off.

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

And I’m in contact with many people from Zimbabwe who feel otherwise. So I guess there’s a stalemate.

Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture.

He pretty much destroyed the country, but he is all about black power. His policies were colossal failures. He gave all that land ‘back’ to black people who had no idea how to farm it. Maybe those are the people you’re in contact with. Oh man there aren’t very many people who would ever defend that fool, but in the end, as they say, it takes all kinds to make a world.

rezburna · 08-14-2018, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture.

He pretty much destroyed the country, but he is all about black power. His policies were colossal failures. He gave all that land ‘back’ to black people who had no idea how to farm it. Maybe those are the people you’re in contact with. Oh man there aren’t very many people who would ever defend that fool, but in the end, as they say, it takes all kinds to make a world.

No mention of sanctions? Cool. Good day saintfan.

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

No mention of sanctions? Cool. Good day saintfan.

He was a monster before anybody sanctioned him for it - I think he was a good 20 years + into his dictatorship before anyone sanctioned him, and by then his hands were long blood stained. That surely doesn’t exonerate that evil man. For sure that is how his defenders attempt to defend him but that rings hollow and there is ample evidence to discredit that hog wash.

Nice mike drop by the way. I wouldn’t want to continue this conversation either if I were you, especially if you care about black lives.

lee909 · 08-14-2018, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture.

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Land grab!

Sorry but are you kidding
How do you think the white farmer took the land in South Africa and Zimbabwe first?

European colonisation of Africa,The America's and Asia has left many of the country a hell hole. Then add in another European/American conflict in the Cold War using these countries as battlefield caused even more issues.

No doubt tribalism in Africa is another cause of the issue but how many of these nations have been stripped and sold off to benefit rich elite?

Look at the attempted coup in 2004 Equatorial Guinea to overthrow the government (bad they where). Both the UK and US had knowledge that it was going to happen. Both had interest in the oil and both stood by and did nothing. They made sure that those 'big' people at the top walked free like Mark Thatcher.

Its a disgrace

The white farmers and rich of South Africa where happy to steal the land,not far off enslave the native population and give them no rights in their own lands on the pretence they where lesser men. Tgat their grandfathers moved there and theirfore God gave them the lands. It was God will for the white man to rule.

The whole idea of race is a crack of s.... really. White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people.

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Land grab!

Sorry but are you kidding
How do you think the white farmer took the land in South Africa and Zimbabwe first?

European colonisation of Africa,The America's and Asia has left many of the country a hell hole. Then add in another European/American conflict in the Cold War using these countries as battlefield caused even more issues.

No doubt tribalism in Africa is another cause of the issue but how many of these nations have been stripped and sold off to benefit rich elite?

Look at the attempted coup in 2004 Equatorial Guinea to overthrow the government (bad they where). Both the UK and US had knowledge that it was going to happen. Both had interest in the oil and both stood by and did nothing. They made sure that those 'big' people at the top walked free like Mark Thatcher.

Its a disgrace

The white farmers and rich of South Africa where happy to steal the land,not far off enslave the native population and give them no rights in their own lands on the pretence they where lesser men. Tgat their grandfathers moved there and theirfore God gave them the lands. It was God will for the white man to rule.

The whole idea of race is a crack of s.... really. White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people.

Well, that is certainly one way to look at it. I bring up the "land grab" because it failed. And it will fail again. This idea of restitution is bogus, but neither you nor anyone else need take my word for it. Maybe we should give all the land in the United States back to the "Native Americans"? What a spectacularly dumb idea, and yet there are people so bitter about the failure of their own history that they demand it, to the detriment of their own kind. And they advocate for the same violence they deplore along the way. That is the definition of irony. But nobody died, at least not that I'm aware of, which makes it one of Mugabe's least tragic offenses.

The point is the failed leadership of the black people...throughout history. And why, with so much blood on his hands, would you gravitate to the 'land grab'? Lets discuss his human rights violations, shall we?

lee909 · 08-14-2018, 07:36 PM

How much of them leadership would there have been without outside interference

saintfan · 08-14-2018, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people.

Uhm, you might wanna rethink that. All one people, then, all of a sudden, 8k years ago, white people? I guarantee you that ain't accurate. I'm not sure where you got that idea, but you should be angry at the source. You have been given bogus info.

08-14-2018, 04:52 PM	#151
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna Black organizations always came up with policy for all people. They knew going to the government for just Blacks wouldn’t fly. The Civil Rights Movement benefitted all minorities. White women the most. The Black Panthers worked on socialist programs that benefitted everybody, and they had a White Panther Party. Yet they still considered themselves a Black organization. Their deeds don’t change that and never have. There are already multicultural organizations and movements. Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point.
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08-14-2018, 04:53 PM	#152
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by Beastmode Well, like I said, it won't matter in about 20 years. Whites won't be the majority which I am actually looking forward to seeing. Might even get a white history month at some point. If we trade places socioeconomically White people can have a White History Summer for all I care. Everyday at school was White History Day for me. Spain, France, Italy, England, all the way to America. shawnkytonk likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem I just commented because I saw my name though. Y’all can have the conversation back. Black hatred of Whites being what’s wrong with America shifted to the entire world...so that’s where it left off.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna And I’m in contact with many people from Zimbabwe who feel otherwise. So I guess there’s a stalemate. Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture. He pretty much destroyed the country, but he is all about black power. His policies were colossal failures. He gave all that land ‘back’ to black people who had no idea how to farm it. Maybe those are the people you’re in contact with. Oh man there aren’t very many people who would ever defend that fool, but in the end, as they say, it takes all kinds to make a world.

08-14-2018, 05:17 PM	#155
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture. He pretty much destroyed the country, but he is all about black power. His policies were colossal failures. He gave all that land ‘back’ to black people who had no idea how to farm it. Maybe those are the people you’re in contact with. Oh man there aren’t very many people who would ever defend that fool, but in the end, as they say, it takes all kinds to make a world. No mention of sanctions? Cool. Good day saintfan.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by rezburna No mention of sanctions? Cool. Good day saintfan. He was a monster before anybody sanctioned him for it - I think he was a good 20 years + into his dictatorship before anyone sanctioned him, and by then his hands were long blood stained. That surely doesn’t exonerate that evil man. For sure that is how his defenders attempt to defend him but that rings hollow and there is ample evidence to discredit that hog wash. Nice mike drop by the way. I wouldn’t want to continue this conversation either if I were you, especially if you care about black lives.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,830 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by saintfan Racism. Economic disaster. Human rights violations. Corruption. Election fraud. And a land grab that destroyed their agriculture. . Land grab! Sorry but are you kidding How do you think the white farmer took the land in South Africa and Zimbabwe first? European colonisation of Africa,The America's and Asia has left many of the country a hell hole. Then add in another European/American conflict in the Cold War using these countries as battlefield caused even more issues. No doubt tribalism in Africa is another cause of the issue but how many of these nations have been stripped and sold off to benefit rich elite? Look at the attempted coup in 2004 Equatorial Guinea to overthrow the government (bad they where). Both the UK and US had knowledge that it was going to happen. Both had interest in the oil and both stood by and did nothing. They made sure that those 'big' people at the top walked free like Mark Thatcher. Its a disgrace The white farmers and rich of South Africa where happy to steal the land,not far off enslave the native population and give them no rights in their own lands on the pretence they where lesser men. Tgat their grandfathers moved there and theirfore God gave them the lands. It was God will for the white man to rule. The whole idea of race is a crack of s.... really. White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people.
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08-14-2018, 07:32 PM	#158
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by lee909 Land grab! Sorry but are you kidding How do you think the white farmer took the land in South Africa and Zimbabwe first? European colonisation of Africa,The America's and Asia has left many of the country a hell hole. Then add in another European/American conflict in the Cold War using these countries as battlefield caused even more issues. No doubt tribalism in Africa is another cause of the issue but how many of these nations have been stripped and sold off to benefit rich elite? Look at the attempted coup in 2004 Equatorial Guinea to overthrow the government (bad they where). Both the UK and US had knowledge that it was going to happen. Both had interest in the oil and both stood by and did nothing. They made sure that those 'big' people at the top walked free like Mark Thatcher. Its a disgrace The white farmers and rich of South Africa where happy to steal the land,not far off enslave the native population and give them no rights in their own lands on the pretence they where lesser men. Tgat their grandfathers moved there and theirfore God gave them the lands. It was God will for the white man to rule. The whole idea of race is a crack of s.... really. White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people. Well, that is certainly one way to look at it. I bring up the "land grab" because it failed. And it will fail again. This idea of restitution is bogus, but neither you nor anyone else need take my word for it. Maybe we should give all the land in the United States back to the "Native Americans"? What a spectacularly dumb idea, and yet there are people so bitter about the failure of their own history that they demand it, to the detriment of their own kind. And they advocate for the same violence they deplore along the way. That is the definition of irony. But nobody died, at least not that I'm aware of, which makes it one of Mugabe's least tragic offenses. The point is the failed leadership of the black people...throughout history. And why, with so much blood on his hands, would you gravitate to the 'land grab'? Lets discuss his human rights violations, shall we? iceshack149 likes this.
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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,830 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem How much of them leadership would there have been without outside interference

08-14-2018, 07:37 PM	#160
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem Originally Posted by lee909 White skin only really started to become common less than 8,000 years ago. Before that all one people. Uhm, you might wanna rethink that. All one people, then, all of a sudden, 8k years ago, white people? I guarantee you that ain't accurate. I'm not sure where you got that idea, but you should be angry at the source. You have been given bogus info.