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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; People are buying into the "politics of fear". That is his explanation. For every thing. Whatever. He compared Trump to George Wallace? Yep, he definitely lives in Oakland. Holy smoke on the water. I don't think this guy is as ...

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Old 08-15-2018, 03:54 PM   #171
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People are buying into the "politics of fear". That is his explanation. For every thing. Whatever.

He compared Trump to George Wallace? Yep, he definitely lives in Oakland. Holy smoke on the water.

I don't think this guy is as well-versed as you might think, but opinions vary. A lot of his answers are just vague responses to Larry's questions. There isn't much 'meat on the bone' in his answers, so to speak.

At any rate, he's a rapper. He has a built in platform to say whatever he wants at his job. That IS his job. There are a billion miles between his situation and that of those who want to use the first amendment as justification for protesting the flag while they are on the job, which the first amendment very clearly does not protect. That's like comparing apples to the moon. There IS no comparison.

By the way, his take on cops - he doesn't 'fear' them, but he doesn't put himself in a place where he has to deal with them - is wise, and it is also my take, and should be everyone's take. I would wager to say there are many militant people, white and black, who are dead today because they didn't understand antagonizing the guy with the gun, right or wrong, is a pretty dumb idea.

He also says Obama is responsible for the animosity between races. I couldn't agree more.

I'm sure there is a reason Kaepernick doesn't vote. He says this:

I think it would be hypocritical of me to vote. I'd said from the beginning I was against oppression, I was against a system of oppression. I'm not going to show support for that system. And, to me, the oppressor isn't going to allow you to vote your way out of your oppression.
So he doesn't trust the democratic 'system' and yet he uses its principles to justify his 'protests'. Voting is actually a designed form of 'protest'. He is the very definition of a moron. He is clearly uneducated and has no idea what he's talking about. He's spewing nonsense put in his low IQ brain by a muslim activist masking as a radio host in...wait for it...Oakland. What 'system', I wonder, does he support? Pan-Africa? LMAO again. That fool couldn't find a political 'system' with both hands, a map, and a tour guide.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:05 AM   #172
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People are buying into the "politics of fear". That is his explanation. For every thing. Whatever.

He compared Trump to George Wallace? Yep, he definitely lives in Oakland. Holy smoke on the water.

I don't think this guy is as well-versed as you might think, but opinions vary. A lot of his answers are just vague responses to Larry's questions. There isn't much 'meat on the bone' in his answers, so to speak.

At any rate, he's a rapper. He has a built in platform to say whatever he wants at his job. That IS his job. There are a billion miles between his situation and that of those who want to use the first amendment as justification for protesting the flag while they are on the job, which the first amendment very clearly does not protect. That's like comparing apples to the moon. There IS no comparison.

By the way, his take on cops - he doesn't 'fear' them, but he doesn't put himself in a place where he has to deal with them - is wise, and it is also my take, and should be everyone's take. I would wager to say there are many militant people, white and black, who are dead today because they didn't understand antagonizing the guy with the gun, right or wrong, is a pretty dumb idea.

He also says Obama is responsible for the animosity between races. I couldn't agree more.

I'm sure there is a reason Kaepernick doesn't vote. He says this:



So he doesn't trust the democratic 'system' and yet he uses its principles to justify his 'protests'. Voting is actually a designed form of 'protest'. He is the very definition of a moron. He is clearly uneducated and has no idea what he's talking about. He's spewing nonsense put in his low IQ brain by a muslim activist masking as a radio host in...wait for it...Oakland. What 'system', I wonder, does he support? Pan-Africa? LMAO again. That fool couldn't find a political 'system' with both hands, a map, and a tour guide.
Thanks for the time you put into your answer and actually watching the video. He is a rapper and is also a very successful stock broker. I'm not so sure about his situation being apples to moon however. NWA was held in high esteem for their style of music. Jackson went into another universe in the late 80's with his, so much so that he was dropped while NWA was exploited for money. He had huge brass ones for the songs he put out in that time. He was cut by his employer for expressing himself.

If you wouldn't mind, here is one of his earlier songs. It's worth a listen, especially around 2:50.
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Old 08-16-2018, 01:23 PM   #173
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Thanks for the time you put into your answer and actually watching the video. He is a rapper and is also a very successful stock broker. I'm not so sure about his situation being apples to moon however. NWA was held in high esteem for their style of music. Jackson went into another universe in the late 80's with his, so much so that he was dropped while NWA was exploited for money. He had huge brass ones for the songs he put out in that time. He was cut by his employer for expressing himself.



If you wouldn't mind, here is one of his earlier songs. It's worth a listen, especially around 2:50. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7id-PmlycxE


I don’t have a problem with protest. Protest is protected in our Constitution for the best of reasons. I don’t get upset when people have different views than me.

I do get upset when someone is disingenuous. I love a good debate and learn lots from them. Generally speaking if I am going to engage I have done my homework. I don’t have much respect for those who do not.

The rapper you posted is clearly not an idiot, but his thoughts aren’t original. He is repeating a mantra that’s pretty common and half baked, so to speak. And I can clearly see this in his vague responses to the questions. He doesn’t want you to try to change his mind. He is closed to any thoughts or ideas outside his very narrow window.

And I promise you, nobody is going to hear him elaborate with much intelligence on why “political fear” is responsible for everything. He will walk away before he allows you to expose his thoughts or lack there of. That is what people like that do. They’re a dime a dozen in the Bay Area. It is frustrating as hell to lead a thirsty man to the water only to watch him refuse to drink.

C'mon Man...

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Old 08-20-2018, 07:15 AM   #174
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Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

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They’re a dime a dozen in the Bay Area.
Hey, SF, I forgot you're in the Bay Area. My cousins are part of what's wrong with Oakland. Somehow the Texas branch of our family, except me, are fine citizens. My CA cousins are a bit more troublesome, and one, closest to me is a serious rap artist, who actually gets radio play. I'll have to ask his rap name sometime... the kids would know him. He's just my cousin E. to me.
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