B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago

blackangold · 01-25-2021, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

Has Brees declined, yes, have we had any viable options to start in his place, no.

This right here doesn't make sense....

In the last 2 years we are 8-1 without Brees. It's easy to argue that Brees held the team back for at least the last 2 years. I'd say that most players on the team could see it everyday in practice. Thomas and other know they had a SB caliber roster that was trying to hold up a bottom end QB.

That doesn't dismiss how great Drew was and all the amazing things he did, but he will go down as a classic story of someone who retired too late and held on for longer than he should have.

Boston Saint · 01-25-2021, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d say those 2 interceptions Brees threw in Minnesota didn’t put us in the best position.

I’d say even after the no call in the Rams game we got the ball first in overtime and he threw an interception then too.

I’d say the second time we played Minnesota he threw a very costly interception and fumbled on a crucial drive that Taysom Hill actually started.

I’d say the 3 interceptions last week weren’t the best look.

7 TD’s
6 interceptions
65% completion percentage
885 yards

That’s his last four playoff games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, let that had been Teddy Bridgewater’s stats over the span of four games. He’d be talked about like the second coming of Aaron Brooks.

Bucs won yesterday throwing three interceptions. It’s because they converted in the red zone and not because of long throws by Brady. Big armed Rodgers and Allen lost yesterday too.

Only a fool would say it’s better to have a QB with limited arm strength. I’m not saying that. I am saying terms like noodle arm are out of place and that if the rest of the team is healthy (Hill, Murray and Thomas were not-hence the Red Zone struggles) and performs (Cook not fumbling like an idiot) Brees is/was capable of winning the game against Tampa. As always, refs made a
Difference. Receivers were held on both sides all throughout that game. Why they decide to call the game clenching penalty with less than two minutes is easy to understand to me.

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Bucs won yesterday throwing three interceptions. It’s because they converted in the red zone and not because of long throws by Brady. Big armed Rodgers and Allen lost yesterday too.

Only a fool would say it’s better to have a QB with limited arm strength. I’m not saying that. I am saying terms like noodle arm are out of place and that if the rest of the team is healthy (Hill, Murray and Thomas were not-hence the Red Zone struggles) and performs (Cook not fumbling like an idiot) Brees is/was capable of winning the game against Tampa. As always, refs made a
Difference. Receivers were held on both sides all throughout that game. Why they decide to call the game clenching penalty with less than two minutes is easy to understand to me.

The fact that Tom Brady can throw the long ball like he did to close out the 2nd quarter is what opens up the field for everything else. Drew Brees is a legend and first ballot HOF’er and blah, blah, blah but that doesn’t take away from the fact he hasn’t been getting it done and he does have a noodle for an arm. Nobody is saying you have to have the strongest arm in the world, but you do have to be able to keep defenses honest. Brady is still able to do that. Drew Brees was a better version Chad Pennington for these last four years.

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2021, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Cooks was right. Thomas is right. Brees shrank in the playoffs for years because his Noodle Arm would get exposed. It’s old news. There’s a reason Payton was trying to get Mahomes. I’m tired of talking about him. I don’t want to hear anything about Brees and the Saints until they induct him into the HOF.

I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though.

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though.

It probably is a little disrespectful. I’ll give you that.

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2021, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It probably is a little disrespectful. I’ll give you that.

Respect!

rezburna · 01-25-2021, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Respect!

Likewise.

Vrillon82 · 01-24-2021, 07:39 PM

Thomas has done better with Hill at QB but I dunno. Thomas didnt produce this year for nothing.

SmashMouth · 01-24-2021, 08:18 PM

Has Cooks set hall of fame numbers since his departure from the Saints ?

iceshack149 · 01-25-2021, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Has Cooks set hall of fame numbers since his departure from the Saints ?

Or Jimmy Graham?

01-25-2021, 09:59 AM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by subguy Has Brees declined, yes, have we had any viable options to start in his place, no. This right here doesn't make sense.... In the last 2 years we are 8-1 without Brees. It's easy to argue that Brees held the team back for at least the last 2 years. I'd say that most players on the team could see it everyday in practice. Thomas and other know they had a SB caliber roster that was trying to hold up a bottom end QB. That doesn't dismiss how great Drew was and all the amazing things he did, but he will go down as a classic story of someone who retired too late and held on for longer than he should have. UK_WhoDat, gosaints1 and K Major like this.
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01-25-2021, 09:44 AM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna I’d say those 2 interceptions Brees threw in Minnesota didn’t put us in the best position. I’d say even after the no call in the Rams game we got the ball first in overtime and he threw an interception then too. I’d say the second time we played Minnesota he threw a very costly interception and fumbled on a crucial drive that Taysom Hill actually started. I’d say the 3 interceptions last week weren’t the best look. 7 TD’s 6 interceptions 65% completion percentage 885 yards That’s his last four playoff games. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, let that had been Teddy Bridgewater’s stats over the span of four games. He’d be talked about like the second coming of Aaron Brooks. Bucs won yesterday throwing three interceptions. It’s because they converted in the red zone and not because of long throws by Brady. Big armed Rodgers and Allen lost yesterday too. Only a fool would say it’s better to have a QB with limited arm strength. I’m not saying that. I am saying terms like noodle arm are out of place and that if the rest of the team is healthy (Hill, Murray and Thomas were not-hence the Red Zone struggles) and performs (Cook not fumbling like an idiot) Brees is/was capable of winning the game against Tampa. As always, refs made a Difference. Receivers were held on both sides all throughout that game. Why they decide to call the game clenching penalty with less than two minutes is easy to understand to me. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.
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01-25-2021, 09:54 AM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Boston Saint Bucs won yesterday throwing three interceptions. It’s because they converted in the red zone and not because of long throws by Brady. Big armed Rodgers and Allen lost yesterday too. Only a fool would say it’s better to have a QB with limited arm strength. I’m not saying that. I am saying terms like noodle arm are out of place and that if the rest of the team is healthy (Hill, Murray and Thomas were not-hence the Red Zone struggles) and performs (Cook not fumbling like an idiot) Brees is/was capable of winning the game against Tampa. As always, refs made a Difference. Receivers were held on both sides all throughout that game. Why they decide to call the game clenching penalty with less than two minutes is easy to understand to me. The fact that Tom Brady can throw the long ball like he did to close out the 2nd quarter is what opens up the field for everything else. Drew Brees is a legend and first ballot HOF’er and blah, blah, blah but that doesn’t take away from the fact he hasn’t been getting it done and he does have a noodle for an arm. Nobody is saying you have to have the strongest arm in the world, but you do have to be able to keep defenses honest. Brady is still able to do that. Drew Brees was a better version Chad Pennington for these last four years. Rsanders24, SmashMouth, 73Saint and 1 others like this.
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01-25-2021, 01:38 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna Cooks was right. Thomas is right. Brees shrank in the playoffs for years because his Noodle Arm would get exposed. It’s old news. There’s a reason Payton was trying to get Mahomes. I’m tired of talking about him. I don’t want to hear anything about Brees and the Saints until they induct him into the HOF. I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though. FinSaint likes this.
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01-25-2021, 02:26 PM	#5
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I have nothing but respect for you Rez but the way that you talk about Drew feels disrespectful. He has been too good to us to talk about him like that. I respect what he's done for us and it's probably time to ride off into the sunset. Would you call him noodle arm to his face? No. I believe that you're better than that. We've been on the board together for years and I feel like I know you fairly well. All I'm saying is maybe you could just say that he has a very weak arm instead of the disrespectful tone of noodle arm. I agree it's time to move on though. It probably is a little disrespectful. I’ll give you that. Rugby Saint II and SaintGnome like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by rezburna It probably is a little disrespectful. I’ll give you that. Respect! gosaints1, K Major and rezburna like this.

01-25-2021, 08:39 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Respect! Likewise. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-24-2021, 07:39 PM	#8
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Thomas has done better with Hill at QB but I dunno. Thomas didnt produce this year for nothing.
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01-24-2021, 08:18 PM	#9
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01-25-2021, 10:13 AM	#10
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: B.Cooks Questioned Drew's Arm Strength 4 Years Ago Originally Posted by SmashMouth Has Cooks set hall of fame numbers since his departure from the Saints ? Or Jimmy Graham? SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

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