2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

ChrisXVI · 04-09-2021, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^ good selections ....

XVI - IIRC you called it on Chauncey Gardner J months before that draft class .

Zaven Collins would be a hell of a pick @28 if he's still there.

FWIW, I don’t actually think Zaven Collins is a great scheme fit. He’s a Patriots/Dolphins fit in the mold of Donta Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. We’ve shown a ton of interest in him though and we LOVE square peg-round hole LB’s.

ChrisXVI · 04-09-2021, 05:11 PM

I challenge y’all to do your first round mocks too and not do that simulator stuff. It’s a lot harder than I thought lol.

K Major · 04-09-2021, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

FWIW, I don’t actually think Zaven Collins is a great scheme fit. He’s a Patriots/Dolphins fit in the mold of Donta Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. We’ve shown a ton of interest in him though and we LOVE square peg-round hole LB’s.

Shades of Stephone Anthony

?

I like Collins. His tape shows that he's also good in coverage & can play the run well. A lot of mocks have being selected somewhere between 20-25 or a pick or two after the Saints pick.

Line this guy up next to Demario & could be something we hadn't seen in a while. For a guy that big (260), he sure gets there in a hurry.

Maybe our coaches and scouts eyes are peeled wide open after seeing what Kwon could do next to DD.

FWIW, I also like Jabrill Cox.

ChrisXVI · 04-09-2021, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Shades of Stephone Anthony ?

I like Collins. His tape shows that he's also good in coverage & can play the run well. A lot of mocks have being selected somewhere between 20-25 or a pick or two after the Saints pick.

Line this guy up next to Demario & could be something we hadn't seen in a while. For a guy that big (260), he sure gets there in a hurry.

Maybe our coaches and scouts eyes are peeled wide open after seeing what Kwon could do next to DD.

FWIW, I also like Jabrill Cox.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Collins as well. I just think he’s a better fit in a multiple scheme and Dennis Allen is not creative enough to use him properly.

Now Jabril Cox, there’s a real baller. If we go with a different position in the 1st I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we traded up in the 2nd for Cox.

K Major · 04-09-2021, 05:46 PM

Mark Gilbert | DB Duke

4.36 40 at his Pro Day. Scouts had him highly rated high 2 seasons ago, then the injuries happened. According to his camp, he's completely healthy now.

By the way, he's the cousin of former NFL corner Darrelle Revis.

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lee909 · 04-09-2021, 06:19 PM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...041456642?s=19

If he checks out it'll be good to have another CB that might be there

ChrisXVI · 04-09-2021, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...041456642?s=19

If he checks out it'll be good to have another CB that might be there

Surtain, Horn and Farley will be gone in the top 20 give or take a few picks. We have to pray Greg Newsome falls to us.

ChrisXVI · 04-09-2021, 07:04 PM

Oh boy if this true then we need to draft the most pro-ready player who isn’t going to be changing position/scheme and forget about drafting anybody that opted out last season. That’s pretty much how I was already approaching it anyway.

ChrisXVI · 04-11-2021, 12:08 PM

Ok so I’ve changed my mock draft and Zaven Collins is no longer available but I have no idea what player to slot to us. Take a look and tell me who you would take if it fell like this...

1. Jaguars- QB Trevor Lawrence
2. Jets- QB Zach Wilson
3. 49ers- QB Justin Fields
4. Broncos- QB Trey Lance
5. Bengals- WR Ja’Marr Chase
6. Dolphins- TE Kyle Pitts
7. Lions- WR DeVonta Smith
8. Panthers- OL Penei Sewell
9. Falcons- CB Patrick Surtain II
10. Cowboys- CB Jaycee Horn
11. Giants- OL Rashawn Slater
12. Eagles- Jaylen Waddle
13. Chargers- OL Alijah Vera-Tucker
14. Vikings- OL Christian Darrisaw
15. Patriots- QB Mac Jones
16. Cardinals- CB Caleb Farley
17. Raiders- OL Teven Jenkins
18. Dolphins- Edge Azeez Ojulari
19. WFT- LB Micah Parsons
20. Bears- OL Landon Dickerson
21. Colts- Edge Kwity Paye
22. Titans- CB Greg Newsome II
23. Jets- Edge Jaelan Phillips
24. Steelers- OL Sam Cosmi
25. Jaguars- DT Christian Barmore
26. Browns- LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
27. Ravens- LB Zaven Collins
28. Saints-

K Major · 04-11-2021, 12:54 PM

That would suck if the Cows select Jaycee Horn

. Just last year they drafted T Diggs who just had a solid rookie season.

With the Lattimore "situation", I'm all in on the Saints drafting another top tier CB in a few weeks.

04-09-2021, 05:07 PM	#441
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major ^^ good selections .... XVI - IIRC you called it on Chauncey Gardner J months before that draft class . Zaven Collins would be a hell of a pick @28 if he's still there. FWIW, I don’t actually think Zaven Collins is a great scheme fit. He’s a Patriots/Dolphins fit in the mold of Donta Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. We’ve shown a ton of interest in him though and we LOVE square peg-round hole LB’s.

04-09-2021, 05:11 PM	#442
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I challenge y’all to do your first round mocks too and not do that simulator stuff. It’s a lot harder than I thought lol.

04-09-2021, 05:18 PM	#443
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI FWIW, I don’t actually think Zaven Collins is a great scheme fit. He’s a Patriots/Dolphins fit in the mold of Donta Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Jamie Collins, etc. We’ve shown a ton of interest in him though and we LOVE square peg-round hole LB’s. Shades of Stephone Anthony ? I like Collins. His tape shows that he's also good in coverage & can play the run well. A lot of mocks have being selected somewhere between 20-25 or a pick or two after the Saints pick. Line this guy up next to Demario & could be something we hadn't seen in a while. For a guy that big (260), he sure gets there in a hurry. Maybe our coaches and scouts eyes are peeled wide open after seeing what Kwon could do next to DD. FWIW, I also like Jabrill Cox. ChrisXVI likes this.

04-09-2021, 05:27 PM	#444
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Shades of Stephone Anthony ? I like Collins. His tape shows that he's also good in coverage & can play the run well. A lot of mocks have being selected somewhere between 20-25 or a pick or two after the Saints pick. Line this guy up next to Demario & could be something we hadn't seen in a while. For a guy that big (260), he sure gets there in a hurry. Maybe our coaches and scouts eyes are peeled wide open after seeing what Kwon could do next to DD. FWIW, I also like Jabrill Cox. Don’t get me wrong, I like Collins as well. I just think he’s a better fit in a multiple scheme and Dennis Allen is not creative enough to use him properly. Now Jabril Cox, there’s a real baller. If we go with a different position in the 1st I wouldn’t be surprised at all if we traded up in the 2nd for Cox. K Major likes this.

04-09-2021, 06:19 PM	#446
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04-09-2021, 06:42 PM	#447
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...041456642?s=19 If he checks out it'll be good to have another CB that might be there Surtain, Horn and Farley will be gone in the top 20 give or take a few picks. We have to pray Greg Newsome falls to us.

04-09-2021, 07:04 PM	#448
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Twitter Oh boy if this true then we need to draft the most pro-ready player who isn’t going to be changing position/scheme and forget about drafting anybody that opted out last season. That’s pretty much how I was already approaching it anyway.

04-11-2021, 12:08 PM	#449
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Ok so I’ve changed my mock draft and Zaven Collins is no longer available but I have no idea what player to slot to us. Take a look and tell me who you would take if it fell like this... 1. Jaguars- QB Trevor Lawrence 2. Jets- QB Zach Wilson 3. 49ers- QB Justin Fields 4. Broncos- QB Trey Lance 5. Bengals- WR Ja’Marr Chase 6. Dolphins- TE Kyle Pitts 7. Lions- WR DeVonta Smith 8. Panthers- OL Penei Sewell 9. Falcons- CB Patrick Surtain II 10. Cowboys- CB Jaycee Horn 11. Giants- OL Rashawn Slater 12. Eagles- Jaylen Waddle 13. Chargers- OL Alijah Vera-Tucker 14. Vikings- OL Christian Darrisaw 15. Patriots- QB Mac Jones 16. Cardinals- CB Caleb Farley 17. Raiders- OL Teven Jenkins 18. Dolphins- Edge Azeez Ojulari 19. WFT- LB Micah Parsons 20. Bears- OL Landon Dickerson 21. Colts- Edge Kwity Paye 22. Titans- CB Greg Newsome II 23. Jets- Edge Jaelan Phillips 24. Steelers- OL Sam Cosmi 25. Jaguars- DT Christian Barmore 26. Browns- LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah 27. Ravens- LB Zaven Collins 28. Saints- K Major likes this.
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04-11-2021, 12:54 PM	#450
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints That would suck if the Cows select Jaycee Horn . Just last year they drafted T Diggs who just had a solid rookie season. With the Lattimore "situation", I'm all in on the Saints drafting another top tier CB in a few weeks. ChrisXVI likes this.