2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

AsylumGuido · 04-06-2021, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Taking the best player available is a luxury that we can’t really afford this year with so many holes.

As many holes as we have wouldn't taking the best player available most likely fill a hole?

halloween 65 · 04-06-2021, 06:24 PM

1. Jamin Davis Ilb/Olb Kentucky
2. Andre Cisco S Syracuse
3. Daviyon Nixon DT Iowa
3.Paulson Adebo CB Stanford
4. Walker Little OT Stanford
6. Khyris Tonga NT BYU ( stash back)
7. Tony Poljan TE Virginia

jeanpierre · 04-06-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If the Saints bring in TJ Carrie & ultimately sign him, I think that would spell the end of PRob in New Orleans.

TJ is much more of a slot guy than boundary corner.

But K, what do you do with Gardner? If anything, this Saints roster is thin on boundary, outside-press CBs right now...

At least P-Rob and P.J. can spot-start for you a couple games per season at the outside CB2 spot...

jeanpierre · 04-06-2021, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

1. Jamin Davis Ilb/Olb Kentucky
2. Andre Cisco S Syracuse
3. Daviyon Nixon DT Iowa
3.Paulson Adebo CB Stanford
4. Walker Little OT Stanford
6. Khyris Tonga NT BYU ( stash back)
7. Tony Poljan TE Virginia

Halloween, you might want to flip Walker Little and Davis there; Walker Little for sure is being talked about in the first round among the more credible scouting services...

Personally Davis is a 3rd grade, though a late 2nd reach would certainly be in his range; but Little is skyrocketing up boards right now...

My favorite tackle, one I hope we draft, is Northern Iowa's Spencer Brown; he could start as a Rookie, allow you to move Ramczyk to LT, pay him accordingly...

You could get some serious draft capital for Armstead, and unload his contract number with a sign and trade...

jeanpierre · 04-07-2021, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did...

28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia)

60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU)

98. DT Jay Tufele (USC)

105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt)

I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all.

IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks...

There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach...

jeanpierre · 04-07-2021, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As many holes as we have wouldn't taking the best player available most likely fill a hole?

Aside from QB1 (Brees), and CB2 (JJenkins), we're essentially returning the same roster, so it's not like we have that many holes as you've argued in past posts...

jeanpierre · 04-07-2021, 09:11 AM

AsylumGuido · 04-07-2021, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Aside from QB1 (Brees), and CB2 (JJenkins), we're essentially returning the same roster, so it's not like we have that many holes as you've argued in past posts...

Same roster minus thirteen departures. That's basically a fourth (24.5%) of our 53 man roster from 2020. That's not including the possible loss of Lattimore.

K Major · 04-07-2021, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

But K, what do you do with Gardner? If anything, this Saints roster is thin on boundary, outside-press CBs right now...

At least P-Rob and P.J. can spot-start for you a couple games per season at the outside CB2 spot...

I'd prefer Ceedy at safety ... good range and instincts.

Malcolm Jenkins is old.

halloween 65 · 04-07-2021, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Halloween, you might want to flip Walker Little and Davis there; Walker Little for sure is being talked about in the first round among the more credible scouting services...

Personally Davis is a 3rd grade, though a late 2nd reach would certainly be in his range; but Little is skyrocketing up boards right now...

My favorite tackle, one I hope we draft, is Northern Iowa's Spencer Brown; he could start as a Rookie, allow you to move Ramczyk to LT, pay him accordingly...

You could get some serious draft capital for Armstead, and unload his contract number with a sign and trade...

I personally would like to see Little tutored by Armstead for a year, if Armstead goes down then Little gets worked in early. Davis is rising to a late first or early second close enough at where we pick. I don't want Ram moved, he's nasty where he's at, nothing gets by him.

04-06-2021, 03:56 PM	#421
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Taking the best player available is a luxury that we can’t really afford this year with so many holes. As many holes as we have wouldn't taking the best player available most likely fill a hole? saintsfan1976 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints 1. Jamin Davis Ilb/Olb Kentucky 2. Andre Cisco S Syracuse 3. Daviyon Nixon DT Iowa 3.Paulson Adebo CB Stanford 4. Walker Little OT Stanford 6. Khyris Tonga NT BYU ( stash back) 7. Tony Poljan TE Virginia

04-06-2021, 07:43 PM	#423
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major If the Saints bring in TJ Carrie & ultimately sign him, I think that would spell the end of PRob in New Orleans. TJ is much more of a slot guy than boundary corner. But K, what do you do with Gardner? If anything, this Saints roster is thin on boundary, outside-press CBs right now... At least P-Rob and P.J. can spot-start for you a couple games per season at the outside CB2 spot...

04-06-2021, 07:49 PM	#424
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by halloween 65 1. Jamin Davis Ilb/Olb Kentucky 2. Andre Cisco S Syracuse 3. Daviyon Nixon DT Iowa 3.Paulson Adebo CB Stanford 4. Walker Little OT Stanford 6. Khyris Tonga NT BYU ( stash back) 7. Tony Poljan TE Virginia Halloween, you might want to flip Walker Little and Davis there; Walker Little for sure is being talked about in the first round among the more credible scouting services... Personally Davis is a 3rd grade, though a late 2nd reach would certainly be in his range; but Little is skyrocketing up boards right now... My favorite tackle, one I hope we draft, is Northern Iowa's Spencer Brown; he could start as a Rookie, allow you to move Ramczyk to LT, pay him accordingly... You could get some serious draft capital for Armstead, and unload his contract number with a sign and trade...
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04-07-2021, 08:18 AM	#425
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I took a 3 round spin on it and here’s what I did... 28. CB Eric Stokes (Georgia) 60. LB Jabril Cox (LSU) 98. DT Jay Tufele (USC) 105. DE Patrick Jones II (Pitt) I’m still not sold on Stokes being a first round talent but I’m not a know-it-all. IF our CB2 out of Farley, Horn, or Newsome isn't there, nor a really elite top 3 WR doesn't fall, I'd move back and get more Day 2 picks... There's no DL nor OL out of the top 10 that's a R1 pick to me, nor a QB not named Trevor or Zach...

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Aside from QB1 (Brees), and CB2 (JJenkins), we're essentially returning the same roster, so it's not like we have that many holes as you've argued in past posts... Same roster minus thirteen departures. That's basically a fourth (24.5%) of our 53 man roster from 2020. That's not including the possible loss of Lattimore.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,063 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre But K, what do you do with Gardner? If anything, this Saints roster is thin on boundary, outside-press CBs right now... At least P-Rob and P.J. can spot-start for you a couple games per season at the outside CB2 spot... I'd prefer Ceedy at safety ... good range and instincts. Malcolm Jenkins is old. SmashMouth likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Halloween, you might want to flip Walker Little and Davis there; Walker Little for sure is being talked about in the first round among the more credible scouting services... Personally Davis is a 3rd grade, though a late 2nd reach would certainly be in his range; but Little is skyrocketing up boards right now... My favorite tackle, one I hope we draft, is Northern Iowa's Spencer Brown; he could start as a Rookie, allow you to move Ramczyk to LT, pay him accordingly... You could get some serious draft capital for Armstead, and unload his contract number with a sign and trade... I personally would like to see Little tutored by Armstead for a year, if Armstead goes down then Little gets worked in early. Davis is rising to a late first or early second close enough at where we pick. I don't want Ram moved, he's nasty where he's at, nothing gets by him.