Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later'

vpheughan · 02-20-2021, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Well in fairness, Palko was undrafted and Canfield was a 7th rounder. Grayson was a mid third, but many third rounders do not pan out. It’s not like has failed with a first or early second round choice.

Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round?

Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history.

Rugby Saint II · 02-23-2021, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round?

Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history.

I hate Brady but he is a good example of a late round drafted QB succeeding in the NFL. They are out there. You've just got to have the eye for talent. Personally, I don't think Sean wants a rookie. He seems to like to elevate the play from experienced QB's with potential to grow like Drew....or even Teddy.

lee909 · 02-23-2021, 12:34 PM

Brady wasn't the Pats having a eye for talent. They took a pu t with a late pick and it worked out. If they new how good he could be they'd never ha e risked waiting. Its the same with anyone who turns in a top career from a late pick

Boston Saint · 02-23-2021, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round?

Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history.

Well, my point is Payton hasn’t had to develop another QB because he has had Brees all this time. If he would have wasted a first or high 2nd round draft pick on a QB and not developed him then it would be a serious strike against him IMO. “Missing” on a Mid third round QB pick isn’t a big deal.

And yes, there have been the Bradys and Wilsons that have had success as third plus round picks. But the league is more full of guys like Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Stafford, Watson, Murray, Jackson, Burrows, etc that are first rounders.

Rugby Saint II · 02-24-2021, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Brady wasn't the Pats having a eye for talent. They took a pu t with a late pick and it worked out. If they new how good he could be they'd never ha e risked waiting. Its the same with anyone who turns in a top career from a late pick

I can't argue that!

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Rugby Saint II · 03-13-2021, 11:30 AM

It's looking like later rather than sooner.

02-20-2021, 06:48 PM	#61
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,499	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by Boston Saint Well in fairness, Palko was undrafted and Canfield was a 7th rounder. Grayson was a mid third, but many third rounders do not pan out. It’s not like has failed with a first or early second round choice. Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round? Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history.
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02-23-2021, 12:13 PM	#62
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by vpheughan Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round? Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history. I hate Brady but he is a good example of a late round drafted QB succeeding in the NFL. They are out there. You've just got to have the eye for talent. Personally, I don't think Sean wants a rookie. He seems to like to elevate the play from experienced QB's with potential to grow like Drew....or even Teddy.

02-23-2021, 12:34 PM	#63
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,725 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Brady wasn't the Pats having a eye for talent. They took a pu t with a late pick and it worked out. If they new how good he could be they'd never ha e risked waiting. Its the same with anyone who turns in a top career from a late pick

02-23-2021, 01:44 PM	#64
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,869	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by vpheughan Really? How many QB's HAS PAYTON DRAFTED in the first or early second round? Ten quarterbacks were selected past the third round in the draft and later went on to win Pro Bowls and even Super Bowls. While their draft positions may have been low, it didn't stop them from being motivated enough to accomplish rare feats in NFL history. Well, my point is Payton hasn’t had to develop another QB because he has had Brees all this time. If he would have wasted a first or high 2nd round draft pick on a QB and not developed him then it would be a serious strike against him IMO. “Missing” on a Mid third round QB pick isn’t a big deal. And yes, there have been the Bradys and Wilsons that have had success as third plus round picks. But the league is more full of guys like Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Stafford, Watson, Murray, Jackson, Burrows, etc that are first rounders. blackangold and K Major like this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Sean Payton wants New Orleans Saints to re-sign QB Jameis Winston 'sooner than later' Originally Posted by lee909 Brady wasn't the Pats having a eye for talent. They took a pu t with a late pick and it worked out. If they new how good he could be they'd never ha e risked waiting. Its the same with anyone who turns in a top career from a late pick I can't argue that!

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