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AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969536)
Well he said it.... "when Jameis broke his back", even repeated it. Injury sucks. But when we all learned of this, I think we all knew deep down it was over for Jameis.
It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.

leilung 02-11-2023 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969539)
It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.
Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.

AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 969542)
Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.
A little of both. I worked for 17 years with a health insurance company as a business and systems analyst and also with a medical records software department in software development. I have spent many an hour researching clinical data over the years. I've also been dealing with vertebrae issues (facet joint arthritis) personally for the past ten years. My wife is also a RNC and for the past fifteen years or so a medical malpractice claims adjustor. I hear all kinds of stuff from that arena.

I actually asked my spine and back specialist at one of my quarterly appointments specifically about Jameis' injury and he gave me a brief rundown and told me what to look for online.

AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 01:18 PM
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K Major 02-11-2023 01:38 PM
Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 969542)
Not ball breaking, just curious: Do you Google your medical commentary or do you have a medical background Guido? When you talk about injuries, you talk in nuanced details that a lay person wouldn't normally know.

Just asking.
Lol.

Some people like to mimic things others have said on Twitter or XM radio :rolleyes: and then post it here to sound as if they actually "know" what's best for the franchise and team.

Braggart, egotist type.

Saintfan nailed it.

Thirty3 02-11-2023 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gosaints1 (Post 914196)
iirc, Winston’s wonderlic score was a 27, Mr Brees? 28. That presupposes you place any value in that testing..., but that testing is something all NFL players are subjected to, and it places both Winston and Mr. Brees on pretty much the same level intellectually.

I’ve never thought Eli Manning was the sharpest tack in the tool shed..., but there he is at 39! Bottom line, if you feel Winston is lacking in any intellectual manner, then Mr. Brees is right there with him.

https://iqtestprep.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/
A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same.

AsylumGuido 02-11-2023 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 969551)
A written test and decision making under pressure are not the same.
The Wonderlic isn't a written test. It is a multiple choice test designed to measure quick decision making. It consists of 50 problems to be solved inside of 12 minutes. That's pressure, don't you think?

Here's a 25 question practice test you can check out.

:D

AsylumGuido 02-12-2023 10:09 AM
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This right here.

rezburna 02-12-2023 10:30 AM
Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969539)
It wasn't a spinal injury, however. Just some of the transverse processes were fractured. While calling it a "broken back" it is not as serious as that sounds.

Transverse process is a small bony projection off the right and left side of each vertebrae. The two transverse processes of each vertebrae function as the site of attachment for muscles and ligaments of the spine as well as the point of articulation of the ribs (in the thoracic spine).

While very painful they are not "career ending". No more so that a broken finger. There is no danger to the spinal cord itself from these injuries at all from everything I have read.
Correct.

SmashMouth 02-12-2023 11:57 AM
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We should see something this week after he's released IMHO. If Saints sign him, we draft a QB next year, other than a late 6th or 7th rounder. The class next year is arguably better . Which one would you draft from this list below?
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2024


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