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halloween 65 02-13-2023 04:31 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 969590)
So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants.

All true but I think he signs here, Loomy give him the red carpet treatment.

leilung 02-13-2023 07:33 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 969590)
So, basically... he and his wife got a free trip to New Orleans, some free meals at the best restaurants, and now he knows that the Saints are interested, but can still do whatever he wants.

Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs?

AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 08:07 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 969605)
Or it could be Carr giving the Raiders a big F-U! allowing a trade helps the Raiders and I'm guessing that his loyalty dried up with theirs?

This is extremely likely.

SmashMouth 02-13-2023 08:10 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 08:34 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 969615)

Excuse me while I wait until someone else other than Ian Fullacrap verifies Carr's being released. ;)

AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 08:58 AM

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K Major 02-13-2023 09:14 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 966234)
Carr is ok but its better to find an ok qb with a second day draft pick because they are way cheaper and younger. We are not one player away. We need the cash to pay for dead cap costs of cutting dead weight.

This right here from BakoSaint :bng:

AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 09:29 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-13-2023 11:07 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley.


We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total.

2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit)

2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit)

2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit)

2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)

2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)
This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway.

SmashMouth 02-13-2023 11:22 AM

Re: I'd like to try and get Derek Carr
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 969639)
Ross Jackson lays out a very reasonable contract structure for Carr and the Saints. Consistent with one normally written up by Loomis/Harley.

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...62980957495305

We’re projecting terms on a 3-year, $105 million deal (average per year: $35 million) with a $50 million signing bonus and $60 million guaranteed in total.

2023: $1.165 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($11.165 million cap hit)

2024: $11.9 million base salary, $10 million roster bonus, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($21.9 million cap hit)

2025: $31.9 million base salary, $10 million signing bonus prorate ($41.9 million cap hit)

2026 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)

2027 (void): $10 million signing bonus prorate ($10 million cap hit)
This would allow the Saints to keep the cap hit in 2023 manageable, plan ahead to restructure the roster bonus in 2024 and backload the deal. That way if things work out, the Saints could extend him to drop that massive 2025 hit into future years which they would add to his contract anyway.

Wut?!? Contract details already? :bng:


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