2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

iceshack149 · 07-08-2021, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Nice summation of the immense talent (and potential talent) on this roster.

Damn, we have a solid roster!

Both lines are stout. All Star talent at DE, LB, SS, FS, CB...

We may end up holding opponents to under 20/game.

Don't eat the cheese!

jeanpierre · 07-09-2021, 02:10 PM

jeanpierre · 07-10-2021, 11:33 AM

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz
WLB
LG
CB2
SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

K Major · 07-10-2021, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz

No faith in 3quan huh? Contract year & a new QB (both can throw it deep) under center. Remember 3quan & Callaway were very good deep ball receivers in college.

I'll be curious to see if the Saints move on from Tre' after this season though.

halloween 65 · 07-10-2021, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz

WLB

LG

CB2

SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

Totally agree about Jenkins. Really wish we kept Bell.

jeanpierre · 07-10-2021, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

No faith in 3quan huh? Contract year & a new QB (both can throw it deep) under center. Remember 3quan & Callaway were very good deep ball receivers in college.

I'll be curious to see if the Saints move on from Tre' after this season though.

Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point...

K Major · 07-11-2021, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point...

But would it be safe to say he's performed equally or better than most of the WR's taken before him in his 2018 draft class? Dante Pettis, Courtland Sutton, James Washington < --- all high second rounders aren't exactly setting the world on fire either.

With the exception of Michael Gallup, 3quan has performed well for what he's been asked to do in this style of offense.

I wouldn't write him off just yet brother

.

K Major · 07-11-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Totally agree about Jenkins. Really wish we kept Bell.

Go back and listen to some of Dennis Allen press conferences. He went on record saying it took almost a month on figuring out how to use MJ effectively.

Stats don't tell the entire story on players, however according to PFR (pro football reference) Jenkins was statistically better than Bell in almost every category for 2020.

I'm not in those film study meetings, however one would believe the coaches may have felt VB was "limited" (INT's, TFL, QB hits etc) in his ability at the SS position. If you go back and look at his over all body of work, there was repetitive communication issues & rarely able to make an interception to change momentum. Not all on him however adding a veteran prescence helped the defense last season.

Not knocking the contributions Vonn made here, however Malcolm was a needed improvement in 2020.

saintsfan1976 · 07-12-2021, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Don't eat the cheese!

Last year's avg pts per game was 21.1 I don't see how sub-20 is a stretch.

AsylumGuido · 07-12-2021, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Updated Team Needs Priorities:

WRz

WLB

LG

CB2

SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer)

Do not underestimate the value of a veteran in the clubhouse. Jenkins is a solid safety on the field and a team leader off.

07-08-2021, 06:20 PM	#391
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,254 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Nice summation of the immense talent (and potential talent) on this roster. Damn, we have a solid roster! Both lines are stout. All Star talent at DE, LB, SS, FS, CB... We may end up holding opponents to under 20/game. Don't eat the cheese! jeanpierre, Rugby Saint II, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Updated Team Needs Priorities: WRz WLB LG CB2 SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer) halloween 65 and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Updated Team Needs Priorities: WRz No faith in 3quan huh? Contract year & a new QB (both can throw it deep) under center. Remember 3quan & Callaway were very good deep ball receivers in college. I'll be curious to see if the Saints move on from Tre' after this season though.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major No faith in 3quan huh? Contract year & a new QB (both can throw it deep) under center. Remember 3quan & Callaway were very good deep ball receivers in college. I'll be curious to see if the Saints move on from Tre' after this season though. Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Nope. He runs like an old man. If he was all that, he'd shown a helluva lot more at this point... But would it be safe to say he's performed equally or better than most of the WR's taken before him in his 2018 draft class? Dante Pettis, Courtland Sutton, James Washington < --- all high second rounders aren't exactly setting the world on fire either. With the exception of Michael Gallup, 3quan has performed well for what he's been asked to do in this style of offense. I wouldn't write him off just yet brother . iceshack149 and AsylumGuido like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by halloween 65 Totally agree about Jenkins. Really wish we kept Bell. Go back and listen to some of Dennis Allen press conferences. He went on record saying it took almost a month on figuring out how to use MJ effectively. Stats don't tell the entire story on players, however according to PFR (pro football reference) Jenkins was statistically better than Bell in almost every category for 2020. I'm not in those film study meetings, however one would believe the coaches may have felt VB was "limited" (INT's, TFL, QB hits etc) in his ability at the SS position. If you go back and look at his over all body of work, there was repetitive communication issues & rarely able to make an interception to change momentum. Not all on him however adding a veteran prescence helped the defense last season. Not knocking the contributions Vonn made here, however Malcolm was a needed improvement in 2020. AsylumGuido and Lord_Saint83 like this.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by iceshack149 Don't eat the cheese! Last year's avg pts per game was 21.1 I don't see how sub-20 is a stretch. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,173	Re: 2021 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Updated Team Needs Priorities: WRz WLB LG CB2 SS/CBs (Gardner stays in the slot or moves to natural position of SS; Malcolm needs to go, can't cover, liability as a small LBer) Do not underestimate the value of a veteran in the clubhouse. Jenkins is a solid safety on the field and a team leader off.

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