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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak It isn't that simple Rugs. What gets players hurt in full pad practice is missing the off-season workouts which should be designed to get players ready to hit. Junior High, High school, and college all do ...

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Old 04-18-2021, 12:20 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
It isn't that simple Rugs. What gets players hurt in full pad practice is missing the off-season workouts which should be designed to get players ready to hit. Junior High, High school, and college all do extensive off season workouts leading up to full pad workouts to prevent this by getting joints, tendons, and ligaments in shape for the stress and torque of full practices and games.

Being "in shape" is not being in "football conditioned" as those have two fairly different requirements. The less they do before pads the more injuries you will see especially in the front 7 on either side of the ball.
Exactly. I fully expect to see more injuries this year.
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:29 PM   #22
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Exactly. I fully expect to see more injuries this year.
More than last year? This year the players have far more access to off-site training facilities which were not open at all last year. They couldn't even go to local high schools or parks to workout. They will have three preseason games as opposed to none like last year.
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:56 PM   #23
 
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I realize that DeMaurice Smith let the players negotiate for less time getting ready to play NFL football while giving all the power to Godhell. Football is sloppier to start than it was years ago when coaches ran players in the ground and toughened them up. Now we can't force players to fit the system. More and more players are opting out of voluntary workouts.

I realize that more injuries occur in physical practices but if your not ready for it then playing the game is where you will get hurt if your body is not ready for the punishment. If you were a player for the Saints would you opt out of the chance to build chemistry with your team mates and impress the coaches? Personally, I'd try hard to follow the schedule that Brees used to gain such success. First in and last out of the facilities.
I don't believe Tom Brady opts out. Here's an example of opting in, including nutrition. May should check out his side business gigs and nutritional habits.
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:29 PM   #24
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More than last year? This year the players have far more access to off-site training facilities which were not open at all last year. They couldn't even go to local high schools or parks to workout. They will have three preseason games as opposed to none like last year.
The only player that I’ve see do structural work is Kamara because he does a lot of off balance work. Sleds, straight line running, stadiums, weights, that’s not football conditioning. They would get more football conditioning playing basketball that solo workouts at a field or field house. That gives them strength and stamina but doesn’t condition them for lateral and torsional stresses on ankles, knees, and hips which is why we see so many tweaks and sprains.
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The only player that I’ve see do structural work is Kamara because he does a lot of off balance work. Sleds, straight line running, stadiums, weights, that’s not football conditioning. They would get more football conditioning playing basketball that solo workouts at a field or field house. That gives them strength and stamina but doesn’t condition them for lateral and torsional stresses on ankles, knees, and hips which is why we see so many tweaks and sprains.
Is Kamara preparing for a post football player career as a conditioning coach?
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Old 04-18-2021, 01:39 PM   #26
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The only player that I’ve see do structural work is Kamara because he does a lot of off balance work. Sleds, straight line running, stadiums, weights, that’s not football conditioning. They would get more football conditioning playing basketball that solo workouts at a field or field house. That gives them strength and stamina but doesn’t condition them for lateral and torsional stresses on ankles, knees, and hips which is why we see so many tweaks and sprains.
I'm comparing it to last year based upon Dude's premise that injuries will be up. All they are planning on holding out of are "voluntary" activities from what I understand. Last year there was virtually no activities at facilities prior to the season. They should at least be more game ready (football conditioning wise) than in 2020.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:22 PM   #27
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You'd think that if the Saints were smart, having a real a off season while everyone else is doing stupid virtual training would give them an advantage.

But whatever.
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Old 04-18-2021, 02:38 PM   #28
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Look like saints are joining the no workout movement


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Old 04-18-2021, 03:41 PM   #29
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Look like saints are joining the no workout movement


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It is a no "voluntary activities at facility" movement. What they'll be holding out of would be mostly non-contact activities.
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:49 PM   #30
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You'd think that if the Saints were smart, having a real a off season while everyone else is doing stupid virtual training would give them an advantage.

But whatever.
Especially since we have new Qb’s and several players who are going to HAVE to step up and elevate their play if we want to win anything. These guys could really benefit from as much togetherness as they can possibly get. Being “in the building” is part of being a team, even if they are separated.
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