Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick

04-30-2021, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only when it is repeated ad nauseum. If you didn't like it when it was made then, cool! But complain away if it makes you feel better. LOL!

It’s unfortunate that you are unable/unwilling to see The possible connection between this pick and some of the other draft moves that Resulted in misses that the organization has made in the past. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, for example, that the team had historically been Linebacker Thin when they refuse to spend any significant draft capital on the position. Jury is still out on Baun.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It’s unfortunate that you are unable/unwilling to see The possible connection between this pick and some of the other draft moves that Resulted in misses that the organization has made in the past. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, for example, that the team had historically been Linebacker Thin when they refuse to spend any significant draft capital on the position. Jury is still out on Baun.

Sorry to enlighten you to this fact, Boston, but not every pick works out. Whoa! Gnarly, dude! No crap?

Boston Saint · 04-30-2021, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sorry to enlighten you to this fact, Boston, but not every pick works out. Whoa! Gnarly, dude! No crap?

When the hell did I say they ever did? Way to straw man.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

When the hell did I say they ever did? Way to straw man.

You were trying to connect pick results from earlier drafts to future ones. Go back. You spelled that out quite clearly. That's exactly what you said.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2021, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You were trying to connect pick results from earlier drafts to future ones. Go back. You spelled that out quite clearly. That's exactly what you said.

No, I was pointing out the similarities in reaching for a pick like Baptiste and seeing him fail and spending 2 higher draft picks (since you were triggered by me saying first rounders) on Davenport and having him clearly not living up to that investment and this years first round pick. How you got me saying every draft pick should be a hit is beyond comprehension. I’m guessing you knew that and are just being adversarial. Otherwise you aren’t very good at reading comprehension.

shawnkytonk · 04-30-2021, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So, I don’t think I’ve ever used the term Bust (I may be wrong), but you think Davenport’s production up to this point in his career has been worthy of 2 first round picks? If so, you don’t know nearly as much about football as you think.

Injuries never warrant someone being labeled a "bust." When the man is on the field, he's a disruptive force. He has constantly put pressure on opposing QBs. He gets sacks and opens things up for others to make plays. He went in the draft where most had him. The Saints did what they had to in order to have him on the roster, and it was probably the biggest need at the time. I'm simply a couch potato scout like everyone else here. Everything I've stated on the topic is truth.

shawnkytonk · 04-30-2021, 08:26 PM

I can admit when we take someone who is a bust. Jonathan Sullivan was a bust that cost us 2 picks. Davenport is nowhere near the same category.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Injuries never warrant someone being labeled a "bust." When the man is on the field, he's a disruptive force. He has constantly put pressure on opposing QBs. He gets sacks and opens things up for others to make plays. He went in the draft where most had him. The Saints did what they had to in order to have him on the roster, and it was probably the biggest need at the time. I'm simply a couch potato scout like everyone else here. Everything I've stated on the topic is truth.

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

I can admit when we take someone who is a bust. Jonathan Sullivan was a bust that cost us 2 picks. Davenport is nowhere near the same category.

Excellent input.

Why others cannot comprehend is baffling.

shawnkytonk · 04-30-2021, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Excellent input.

Why others cannot comprehend is baffling.

I'm thinking the injury bug is why people keep calling him that. It's ridiculous. His play on the field says otherwise. I'm hoping he can finally stay healthy this year. Everyone will shut up if and when that happens.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

I'm thinking the injury bug is why people keep calling him that. It's ridiculous. His play on the field says otherwise. I'm hoping he can finally stay healthy this year. Everyone will shut up if and when that happens.

I know. It's like they don't watch the games.

04-30-2021, 07:32 PM	#91
Threaded by Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only when it is repeated ad nauseum. If you didn't like it when it was made then, cool! But complain away if it makes you feel better. LOL! It’s unfortunate that you are unable/unwilling to see The possible connection between this pick and some of the other draft moves that Resulted in misses that the organization has made in the past. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, for example, that the team had historically been Linebacker Thin when they refuse to spend any significant draft capital on the position. Jury is still out on Baun.
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04-30-2021, 07:44 PM	#92
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,972	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint It’s unfortunate that you are unable/unwilling to see The possible connection between this pick and some of the other draft moves that Resulted in misses that the organization has made in the past. I don’t think it’s a coincidence, for example, that the team had historically been Linebacker Thin when they refuse to spend any significant draft capital on the position. Jury is still out on Baun. Sorry to enlighten you to this fact, Boston, but not every pick works out. Whoa! Gnarly, dude! No crap?

04-30-2021, 07:47 PM	#93
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sorry to enlighten you to this fact, Boston, but not every pick works out. Whoa! Gnarly, dude! No crap? When the hell did I say they ever did? Way to straw man.

04-30-2021, 07:58 PM	#94
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,972	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint When the hell did I say they ever did? Way to straw man. You were trying to connect pick results from earlier drafts to future ones. Go back. You spelled that out quite clearly. That's exactly what you said.

04-30-2021, 08:12 PM	#95
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You were trying to connect pick results from earlier drafts to future ones. Go back. You spelled that out quite clearly. That's exactly what you said. No, I was pointing out the similarities in reaching for a pick like Baptiste and seeing him fail and spending 2 higher draft picks (since you were triggered by me saying first rounders) on Davenport and having him clearly not living up to that investment and this years first round pick. How you got me saying every draft pick should be a hit is beyond comprehension. I’m guessing you knew that and are just being adversarial. Otherwise you aren’t very good at reading comprehension.

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04-30-2021, 08:24 PM	#96
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 739	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint So, I don’t think I’ve ever used the term Bust (I may be wrong), but you think Davenport’s production up to this point in his career has been worthy of 2 first round picks? If so, you don’t know nearly as much about football as you think. Injuries never warrant someone being labeled a "bust." When the man is on the field, he's a disruptive force. He has constantly put pressure on opposing QBs. He gets sacks and opens things up for others to make plays. He went in the draft where most had him. The Saints did what they had to in order to have him on the roster, and it was probably the biggest need at the time. I'm simply a couch potato scout like everyone else here. Everything I've stated on the topic is truth. AsylumGuido likes this.

04-30-2021, 08:26 PM	#97
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 739	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick I can admit when we take someone who is a bust. Jonathan Sullivan was a bust that cost us 2 picks. Davenport is nowhere near the same category. AsylumGuido likes this.

04-30-2021, 08:32 PM	#98
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,972	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Injuries never warrant someone being labeled a "bust." When the man is on the field, he's a disruptive force. He has constantly put pressure on opposing QBs. He gets sacks and opens things up for others to make plays. He went in the draft where most had him. The Saints did what they had to in order to have him on the roster, and it was probably the biggest need at the time. I'm simply a couch potato scout like everyone else here. Everything I've stated on the topic is truth. Originally Posted by shawnkytonk I can admit when we take someone who is a bust. Jonathan Sullivan was a bust that cost us 2 picks. Davenport is nowhere near the same category. Excellent input. Why others cannot comprehend is baffling.

04-30-2021, 08:37 PM	#99
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 739	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Excellent input. Why others cannot comprehend is baffling. I'm thinking the injury bug is why people keep calling him that. It's ridiculous. His play on the field says otherwise. I'm hoping he can finally stay healthy this year. Everyone will shut up if and when that happens.

04-30-2021, 08:43 PM	#100
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 25,972	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by shawnkytonk I'm thinking the injury bug is why people keep calling him that. It's ridiculous. His play on the field says otherwise. I'm hoping he can finally stay healthy this year. Everyone will shut up if and when that happens. I know. It's like they don't watch the games.