Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Guido doesn’t like it when people form opinions. He likes to blindly follow the facts. At least the ones he can cherry pick to make the Saints seem perfect in his mind.

Yup. Ya' gotta hate facts.

st thomas · 04-30-2021, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Bottom line is it smells to me of Baptiste, Davenport and other “reaches” the team has taken on draft prospects that were surprise moves according to draft analysts. I felt good about Lattimore pick at the time. I don’t feel good about this one. Maybe I’m wrong and they hit on a Kamara.

The thing about Kamara , we moved up to get him in the 3rd round is not like moving up in the 1st rd that we all think Davenport should have made more waves. If Kamara was a bust had not made the team it would have been o well we didn’t loose 2 first rd picks , but Davenport is not a bust (Yet) I’ll determine that after this season.

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K Major · 04-30-2021, 10:23 AM

Take that PFF grade on Turner with a grain of salt.

They've been wrong a lot in their evaluations of 1st rounders over the years.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2021, 11:23 AM

You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2021, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick.

It wasn't a question in their minds and theirs are the only ones that carry any weight.

I understand that you don't understand. You are basing your opinion on what you read from others that don't make real decisions.

iceshack149 · 04-30-2021, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick.

In my opinion you just gave a great reason for the pick. In a division with slow QB'S the Saints have huge, athletic monsters on the D-line. That's the recipe for winning and the Giants proved that when they kept the Patriots from having an undefeated season.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2021, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

In my opinion you just gave a great reason for the pick. In a division with slow QB'S the Saints have huge, athletic monsters on the D-line. That's the recipe for winning and the Giants proved that when they kept the Patriots from having an undefeated season.

Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious.

iceshack149 · 04-30-2021, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious.

They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back!

Boston Saint · 04-30-2021, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back!

Maybe so. I don’t see that helping to slow Pitts down though.

K Major · 04-30-2021, 12:44 PM

Whether Turner was the right player only time will tell, just like every draft pick, but the strategy was certainly a good one. Not to mention we have one if not the best def line coaches in the league.

I'm anxious to see what direction we move on Day 2 & 3 of the draft.

04-30-2021, 12:19 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by The Dude Guido doesn’t like it when people form opinions. He likes to blindly follow the facts. At least the ones he can cherry pick to make the Saints seem perfect in his mind. Yup. Ya' gotta hate facts.

04-30-2021, 12:51 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint Bottom line is it smells to me of Baptiste, Davenport and other “reaches” the team has taken on draft prospects that were surprise moves according to draft analysts. I felt good about Lattimore pick at the time. I don’t feel good about this one. Maybe I’m wrong and they hit on a Kamara. The thing about Kamara , we moved up to get him in the 3rd round is not like moving up in the 1st rd that we all think Davenport should have made more waves. If Kamara was a bust had not made the team it would have been o well we didn’t loose 2 first rd picks , but Davenport is not a bust (Yet) I’ll determine that after this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-30-2021, 10:23 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Take that PFF grade on Turner with a grain of salt. They've been wrong a lot in their evaluations of 1st rounders over the years. SmashMouth and Rell&Gold like this.

04-30-2021, 11:23 AM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick.

04-30-2021, 11:31 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick. It wasn't a question in their minds and theirs are the only ones that carry any weight. I understand that you don't understand. You are basing your opinion on what you read from others that don't make real decisions.

04-30-2021, 12:11 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint You have Jordan. You signed Davenport’s 5th year option. You sign Kpassagnon, a 6’ 7” physical freak as a free agent. Then draft another DE project in the first round when he was from a non power conference and not rated as a first round pick. Spin that all you want, Putting it kindly it’s a questionable pick. In my opinion you just gave a great reason for the pick. In a division with slow QB'S the Saints have huge, athletic monsters on the D-line. That's the recipe for winning and the Giants proved that when they kept the Patriots from having an undefeated season. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and K Major like this.

04-30-2021, 12:49 PM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by iceshack149 In my opinion you just gave a great reason for the pick. In a division with slow QB'S the Saints have huge, athletic monsters on the D-line. That's the recipe for winning and the Giants proved that when they kept the Patriots from having an undefeated season. Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious.

04-30-2021, 01:02 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,406 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by Boston Saint Possibly. Yet On most defensive plays for the saints there are 2 DEs. There are usually 2 or more LBs as well. If you can’t understand the logic of people that question why there are now 4 functional DEs on the roster with only 1 1/2 functional LBs on the roster then I can’t help you. It’s pretty obvious. They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back! AsylumGuido and Boston Saint like this.

04-30-2021, 01:04 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Originally Posted by iceshack149 They're bringing the "NASCAR" package back! Maybe so. I don’t see that helping to slow Pitts down though.

04-30-2021, 12:44 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints draft Houston DE Payton Turner with first-round pick Whether Turner was the right player only time will tell, just like every draft pick, but the strategy was certainly a good one. Not to mention we have one if not the best def line coaches in the league. I'm anxious to see what direction we move on Day 2 & 3 of the draft. SmashMouth likes this.