Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2021, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

And yet that addresses none of the points I’ve made. Show me one Hill highlight at QB that matches any of those. Yet he has a higher ceiling? You’ve not shown the evidence. I have.

Jeopardy theme music.

gosaints1 · 06-08-2021, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

And yet that addresses none of the points I’ve made. Show me one Hill highlight at QB that matches any of those. Yet he has a higher ceiling? You’ve not shown the evidence. I have.

This video would like a word with you..., and this coming from a forumite who is, and has been, on the record as saying that Winston is the better QB, and Taysom is Inspector Gadget. Some ppl view Winston’s negatives, and being int prone is a negative he has on his resume, as a greater detriment to the team than his positives could ever. It’s a fair criticism, not one I share, but I completely understand their logic.

YouTube

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2021, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

This video would like a word with you..., and this coming from a forumite who is, and has been, on the record as saying that Winston is the better QB, and Taysom is Inspector Gadget. Some ppl view Winston’s negatives, and being int prone is a negative he has on his resume, as a greater detriment to the team than his positives could ever. It’s a fair criticism, not one I share, but I completely understand their logic.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DhfpQcL1ETc

Being interception prone has been a result of the offenses employed. In Winston's career he has never had more picks than TD's. Something that Peyton Manning and Brett Favre can't claim. As for Winston's peak year for picks at 30, it was the first year under Bruce Arians that encouraged taking chances down field and it more than doubled Winston's career average in interceptions. Just a little ammo you can use to your advantage, gosaints1 in your arguments.

SaintGnome · 06-08-2021, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So, I just watched this video. After doing so there is no way you will convince me Hill has so far demonstrated he has a higher ceiling than the guy who makes these plays. He needs a little control, and to learn not to force some plays, and a better offensive game plan. But no way in heck has Hill shown that he has a higher ceiling.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3bMBVLAtTE&t=611s

Every Jameis Winston Interception of the 2019 Season! - YouTube

Not on either side, just want the best one to win the job, but I thought it fair to show tit for tat.

gosaints1 · 06-08-2021, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Every Jameis Winston Interception of the 2019 Season! - YouTube

Not on either side, just want the best one to win the job, but I thought it fair to show tit for tat.

I was putting the same video up as you were, lol. My bad folks, sorry for the dupe.

Boston Saint · 06-08-2021, 07:00 PM

And I have never said he doesn’t have issues. Nor to say he should be given the job outright. Only to cast shade on those who say we “know” what he is and that he shouldn’t be given a fair shake himself. He has demonstrated the potential to make plays; he should not be discarded outright. I guess that’s too much for some of you to accept and allow.

jnormand · 06-08-2021, 07:40 PM

Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston.

We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time.

AsylumGuido · 06-08-2021, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston.

We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time.

I'm team neither. I want want what is best for the team overall in 2021. Taysom Hill is a remarkable athlete and is most valuable being involved in many aspects of the game. Winston is an experienced NFL QB that has put up tremendous numbers under less than optimum conditions. I want the best for the Saints this season. After this season maybe Ian Book takes over and that is fine with me. I want to win now.

Boston Saint · 06-08-2021, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston.

We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time.

Man, so far the only team I’ve seen is the anti-Winston team.

The Dude · 06-08-2021, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Man, so far the only team I’ve seen is the anti-Winston team.

Most people I see in the Facebook groups are pretty anti-Hill. Just like anything else it depends on the company you keep. Like minded people gravitate towards each other for better or worse. Mostly worse. That’s why I like this board so much, a lot of independent thinkers around here whose opinions are rooted in knowledge.
I for one don’t care who wins the job as long as it puts us in the best position to win. I just think it’s going to be a lot harder for Hill because he’s such a big part of what we do on offense when he’s not under center. Unless Winston just stinks the place up I think he’s gonna be the guy.
When it’s all said and done the locker room will get behind the guy who puts them in the best position to win/make plays.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by Boston Saint And yet that addresses none of the points I’ve made. Show me one Hill highlight at QB that matches any of those. Yet he has a higher ceiling? You’ve not shown the evidence. I have. Jeopardy theme music.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by gosaints1 This video would like a word with you..., and this coming from a forumite who is, and has been, on the record as saying that Winston is the better QB, and Taysom is Inspector Gadget. Some ppl view Winston’s negatives, and being int prone is a negative he has on his resume, as a greater detriment to the team than his positives could ever. It’s a fair criticism, not one I share, but I completely understand their logic. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DhfpQcL1ETc Being interception prone has been a result of the offenses employed. In Winston's career he has never had more picks than TD's. Something that Peyton Manning and Brett Favre can't claim. As for Winston's peak year for picks at 30, it was the first year under Bruce Arians that encouraged taking chances down field and it more than doubled Winston's career average in interceptions. Just a little ammo you can use to your advantage, gosaints1 in your arguments.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by SaintGnome Every Jameis Winston Interception of the 2019 Season! - YouTube Not on either side, just want the best one to win the job, but I thought it fair to show tit for tat. I was putting the same video up as you were, lol. My bad folks, sorry for the dupe. jnormand and SaintGnome like this.
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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB And I have never said he doesn’t have issues. Nor to say he should be given the job outright. Only to cast shade on those who say we “know” what he is and that he shouldn’t be given a fair shake himself. He has demonstrated the potential to make plays; he should not be discarded outright. I guess that’s too much for some of you to accept and allow. gosaints1 likes this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,735	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston. We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by jnormand Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston. We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time. I'm team neither. I want want what is best for the team overall in 2021. Taysom Hill is a remarkable athlete and is most valuable being involved in many aspects of the game. Winston is an experienced NFL QB that has put up tremendous numbers under less than optimum conditions. I want the best for the Saints this season. After this season maybe Ian Book takes over and that is fine with me. I want to win now. Boston Saint likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by jnormand Man some people here are gonna eat some crow after this season. Lol. One way or another, Team Hill or Team Winston. We haven't had this kind of talk about our starting QB in a long time. Man, so far the only team I’ve seen is the anti-Winston team.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by Boston Saint Man, so far the only team I’ve seen is the anti-Winston team. Most people I see in the Facebook groups are pretty anti-Hill. Just like anything else it depends on the company you keep. Like minded people gravitate towards each other for better or worse. Mostly worse. That’s why I like this board so much, a lot of independent thinkers around here whose opinions are rooted in knowledge. I for one don’t care who wins the job as long as it puts us in the best position to win. I just think it’s going to be a lot harder for Hill because he’s such a big part of what we do on offense when he’s not under center. Unless Winston just stinks the place up I think he’s gonna be the guy. When it’s all said and done the locker room will get behind the guy who puts them in the best position to win/make plays. jnormand, AsylumGuido, gosaints1 and 2 others like this.
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