Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB

AsylumGuido · 06-02-2021, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

That's true with Brees as QB. No matter who is around Winston...WE KNOW who he is. Winston WILL lose us some games. Hill is all upside AND A LOT OF IT. Remember the guy is still GROWING into the NFL QB position. AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THIS TEAM --- HE DESERVES --- THE OPPORTUNITY.

Get a grip, son. You are losing it. Hill has done nothing but fill in at a satisfactory level when needed.

As for Winston, yes, we know he won a National Championship in college. We know he won the most prestigious honor for a college player with the Heisman. We know he led the league in passing yards in 2019. We know he was second in the league in TD passes in 2019.

What has Hill accomplished? Why does he deserve the starting role?

I'll give it to you he needs to play. He is a great athlete. Just not at QB.

jeanpierre · 06-03-2021, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Get a grip, son. You are losing it. Hill has done nothing but fill in at a satisfactory level when needed.

As for Winston, yes, we know he won a National Championship in college. We know he won the most prestigious honor for a college player with the Heisman. We know he led the league in passing yards in 2019. We know he was second in the league in TD passes in 2019.

What has Hill accomplished? Why does he deserve the starting role?

I'll give it to you he needs to play. He is a great athlete. Just not at QB.

So you do pay attention to what goes on in CFB?

Boston Saint · 06-04-2021, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

That's true with Brees as QB. No matter who is around Winston...WE KNOW who he is. Winston WILL lose us some games. Hill is all upside AND A LOT OF IT. Remember the guy is still GROWING into the NFL QB position. AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THIS TEAM --- HE DESERVES --- THE OPPORTUNITY.

First of all, cut back on the caffeine. Second, I guess Kamara and CGM “deserve” a chance at QB too then for all they’ve done for this team, right? Because so far all Hill has shown is that he’s a great athlete who can run, hit, and catch and has a Propensity to fumble when he does so. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven “deserving’s got nothing to do with it”.

And what does growing into the position mean? Hill is three years older than Winston. Hill gets a chance to grow into the NFL QB position, but Winston doesn’t? You don’t think Green Bay and Saints coaches (plus the entire drafting NFL world) might know a thing or two about evaluating his potential as a starting NFL QB? Since playing at BYU the dude has had every opportunity to win a starting QB job and, guess what?...HE IS GETTING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW! Hill, Winston, Simeon, and Book are all getting the chance to win the starting job. I personally don’t care who it is that does win it but my money is on Winston. Doesn’t mean I’m pulling for him more than anyone else. But he’s clearly demonstrated he posses superior skills to be an NFL QB over the other three at this point.

jnormand · 06-05-2021, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

First of all, cut back on the caffeine. Second, I guess Kamara and CGM “deserve” a chance at QB too then for all they’ve done for this team, right? Because so far all Hill has shown is that he’s a great athlete who can run, hit, and catch and has a Propensity to fumble when he does so. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven “deserving’s got nothing to do with it”.

And what does growing into the position mean? Hill is three years older than Winston. Hill gets a chance to grow into the NFL QB position, but Winston doesn’t? You don’t think Green Bay and Saints coaches (plus the entire drafting NFL world) might know a thing or two about evaluating his potential as a starting NFL QB? Since playing at BYU the dude has had every opportunity to win a starting QB job and, guess what?...HE IS GETTING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW! Hill, Winston, Simeon, and Book are all getting the chance to win the starting job. I personally don’t care who it is that does win it but my money is on Winston. Doesn’t mean I’m pulling for him more than anyone else. But he’s clearly demonstrated he posses superior skills to be an NFL QB over the other three at this point.

Hey man, Hill is the underdog. Never played a down for a rival. Ever. He's come in and played multiple positions and has done well doing it. Even doing things that your boy Winston would scoff and probably refuse to do.

I've been pulling for the underdog for a 35 years (the Saints). Not gonna stop now. And there ain't a damn thing wrong with it.

Anyone pulling for Hill....I say hell yeah! And if he doesn't get the nod at QB, I hope he makes the whole team rethink their rank and file at their position. Because he makes them all look expendable.

Nothing wrong with cheering for a true athlete and a true sportsman.

PS. AG can kiss my ass.

Thirty3 · 06-02-2021, 05:39 PM

Here's a thought ... The team will most likely lose some games no matter who is at QB... Hill has better skills to get us the tough wins than Winston. And sure, why not ON OCCAISION use Winston as QB and Hill as joker option.
I confess - I'm hoping for Hill to be the next great QB on the scene. Winston already LOST ONE JOB and I don't want to see a repeat here. I've already said on here that if Winston gets the Job, in mho he will lose it by week six or at most week eight. CLEARLY Hill is on the way up and Winston is trying to HANG ON. lol. Just so everyone is clear about MHO.

TheOak · 06-04-2021, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

“Look, at the end of the day and when I first got here and I started doing all this stuff, the answer when I was asked ‘hey, what’s the end goal for you?’ has always been to play quarterback. I’m a quarterback at heart and that’s my mindset. That is really nice when I can tailor all of my offseason program to being as good of a quarterback as I possibly can.”

This is an often missed but very important teaching moment. It is all fine and dandy to tell children "you can be anything that you want to". But, by the time adulthood arrives adequate time should have been spent determining what skill sets are present.

I started working during the summer when I was 13 as a welders helper on a pipeline crew. Each summer my job was different and by the time I was 17 I had spent time sandblasting, painting, chipping buckshot, driving dozers and tractors, working on bulldozers and tractors, plowing, bush-hogging, levy repair. general farm work etc... This gave me a wide variety of application experience and an understanding of my natural abilities. Spend a summer on a 25 year old Massey Ferguson and you'll get a feel for your mechanical and trouble shooting talents lol.

Recent generations have pumped out young adults with a head full of goals and dreams but an absolutely empty toolbox or applications understanding outside of a through misunderstanding of our government, adequate complaint and sarcasm prowess, and a decent KDR in BattleField...

In Taysom's head he is an NFL QB, in his toolkit he is not (or it remains to be seen if he is).

st thomas · 06-04-2021, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

This is an often missed but very important teaching moment. It is all fine and dandy to tell children "you can be anything that you want to". But, by the time adulthood arrives adequate time should have been spent determining what skill sets are present.

I started working during the summer when I was 13 as a welders helper on a pipeline crew. Each summer my job was different and by the time I was 17 I had spent time sandblasting, painting, chipping buckshot, driving dozers and tractors, working on bulldozers and tractors, plowing, bush-hogging, levy repair. general farm work etc... This gave me a wide variety of application experience and an understanding of my natural abilities. Spend a summer on a 25 year old Massey Ferguson and you'll get a feel for your mechanical and trouble shooting talents lol.

Recent generations have pumped out young adults with a head full of goals and dreams but an absolutely empty toolbox or applications understanding outside of a through misunderstanding of our government, adequate complaint and sarcasm prowess, and a decent KDR in BattleField...

In Taysom's head he is an NFL QB, in his toolkit he is not (or it remains to be seen if he is).

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dizzle88 · 06-05-2021, 07:51 AM

Honestly, whilst Drew retiring makes us worse, I'm excited to see what the team, specifically the offense, can do.

I hope Payton opens up the offense a bit and gets the QB, whoever it is, to push the ball down the field, rather than dump offs or check downs.

AsylumGuido · 06-05-2021, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Honestly, whilst Drew retiring makes us worse, I'm excited to see what the team, specifically the offense, can do.

I hope Payton opens up the offense a bit and gets the QB, whoever it is, to push the ball down the field, rather than dump offs or check downs.

Over the last couple of weeks on NFL Radio topics have included looking into the teams and their prospects for 2021. More than not have said they expect more out of the offense than what we have seen the last couple of years. Injuries to Brees had a lot to do with that, but so did injuries to Thomas and others. Most felt Winston could give more of an explosive dynamic which has been missing. What will be missed is Brees' leadership on and off the field.

Boston Saint · 06-05-2021, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Over the last couple of weeks on NFL Radio topics have included looking into the teams and their prospects for 2021. More than not have said they expect more out of the offense than what we have seen the last couple of years. Injuries to Brees had a lot to do with that, but so did injuries to Thomas and others. Most felt Winston could give more of an explosive dynamic which has been missing. What will be missed is Brees' leadership on and off the field.

That is where Kamara and Jordan and D Davis can hopefully fill that void. y all accounts it seems like those guys have the character to do so.

06-02-2021, 05:49 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by Thirty3 That's true with Brees as QB. No matter who is around Winston...WE KNOW who he is. Winston WILL lose us some games. Hill is all upside AND A LOT OF IT. Remember the guy is still GROWING into the NFL QB position. AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THIS TEAM --- HE DESERVES --- THE OPPORTUNITY. Get a grip, son. You are losing it. Hill has done nothing but fill in at a satisfactory level when needed. As for Winston, yes, we know he won a National Championship in college. We know he won the most prestigious honor for a college player with the Heisman. We know he led the league in passing yards in 2019. We know he was second in the league in TD passes in 2019. What has Hill accomplished? Why does he deserve the starting role? I'll give it to you he needs to play. He is a great athlete. Just not at QB. Lord_Saint83 likes this.
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06-03-2021, 11:37 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Get a grip, son. You are losing it. Hill has done nothing but fill in at a satisfactory level when needed. As for Winston, yes, we know he won a National Championship in college. We know he won the most prestigious honor for a college player with the Heisman. We know he led the league in passing yards in 2019. We know he was second in the league in TD passes in 2019. What has Hill accomplished? Why does he deserve the starting role? I'll give it to you he needs to play. He is a great athlete. Just not at QB. So you do pay attention to what goes on in CFB? saintfan and K Major like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by Thirty3 That's true with Brees as QB. No matter who is around Winston...WE KNOW who he is. Winston WILL lose us some games. Hill is all upside AND A LOT OF IT. Remember the guy is still GROWING into the NFL QB position. AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THIS TEAM --- HE DESERVES --- THE OPPORTUNITY. First of all, cut back on the caffeine. Second, I guess Kamara and CGM “deserve” a chance at QB too then for all they’ve done for this team, right? Because so far all Hill has shown is that he’s a great athlete who can run, hit, and catch and has a Propensity to fumble when he does so. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven “deserving’s got nothing to do with it”. And what does growing into the position mean? Hill is three years older than Winston. Hill gets a chance to grow into the NFL QB position, but Winston doesn’t? You don’t think Green Bay and Saints coaches (plus the entire drafting NFL world) might know a thing or two about evaluating his potential as a starting NFL QB? Since playing at BYU the dude has had every opportunity to win a starting QB job and, guess what?...HE IS GETTING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW! Hill, Winston, Simeon, and Book are all getting the chance to win the starting job. I personally don’t care who it is that does win it but my money is on Winston. Doesn’t mean I’m pulling for him more than anyone else. But he’s clearly demonstrated he posses superior skills to be an NFL QB over the other three at this point. AsylumGuido and Lord_Saint83 like this.
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06-05-2021, 01:46 AM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,781	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by Boston Saint First of all, cut back on the caffeine. Second, I guess Kamara and CGM “deserve” a chance at QB too then for all they’ve done for this team, right? Because so far all Hill has shown is that he’s a great athlete who can run, hit, and catch and has a Propensity to fumble when he does so. As Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven “deserving’s got nothing to do with it”. And what does growing into the position mean? Hill is three years older than Winston. Hill gets a chance to grow into the NFL QB position, but Winston doesn’t? You don’t think Green Bay and Saints coaches (plus the entire drafting NFL world) might know a thing or two about evaluating his potential as a starting NFL QB? Since playing at BYU the dude has had every opportunity to win a starting QB job and, guess what?...HE IS GETTING ANOTHER ONE RIGHT NOW! Hill, Winston, Simeon, and Book are all getting the chance to win the starting job. I personally don’t care who it is that does win it but my money is on Winston. Doesn’t mean I’m pulling for him more than anyone else. But he’s clearly demonstrated he posses superior skills to be an NFL QB over the other three at this point. Hey man, Hill is the underdog. Never played a down for a rival. Ever. He's come in and played multiple positions and has done well doing it. Even doing things that your boy Winston would scoff and probably refuse to do. I've been pulling for the underdog for a 35 years (the Saints). Not gonna stop now. And there ain't a damn thing wrong with it. Anyone pulling for Hill....I say hell yeah! And if he doesn't get the nod at QB, I hope he makes the whole team rethink their rank and file at their position. Because he makes them all look expendable. Nothing wrong with cheering for a true athlete and a true sportsman. PS. AG can kiss my ass. jeanpierre and Thirty3 like this.
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Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Here's a thought ... The team will most likely lose some games no matter who is at QB... Hill has better skills to get us the tough wins than Winston. And sure, why not ON OCCAISION use Winston as QB and Hill as joker option. I confess - I'm hoping for Hill to be the next great QB on the scene. Winston already LOST ONE JOB and I don't want to see a repeat here. I've already said on here that if Winston gets the Job, in mho he will lose it by week six or at most week eight. CLEARLY Hill is on the way up and Winston is trying to HANG ON. lol. Just so everyone is clear about MHO. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.
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06-04-2021, 07:16 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by SmashMouth “Look, at the end of the day and when I first got here and I started doing all this stuff, the answer when I was asked ‘hey, what’s the end goal for you?’ has always been to play quarterback. I’m a quarterback at heart and that’s my mindset. That is really nice when I can tailor all of my offseason program to being as good of a quarterback as I possibly can.” This is an often missed but very important teaching moment. It is all fine and dandy to tell children "you can be anything that you want to". But, by the time adulthood arrives adequate time should have been spent determining what skill sets are present. I started working during the summer when I was 13 as a welders helper on a pipeline crew. Each summer my job was different and by the time I was 17 I had spent time sandblasting, painting, chipping buckshot, driving dozers and tractors, working on bulldozers and tractors, plowing, bush-hogging, levy repair. general farm work etc... This gave me a wide variety of application experience and an understanding of my natural abilities. Spend a summer on a 25 year old Massey Ferguson and you'll get a feel for your mechanical and trouble shooting talents lol. Recent generations have pumped out young adults with a head full of goals and dreams but an absolutely empty toolbox or applications understanding outside of a through misunderstanding of our government, adequate complaint and sarcasm prowess, and a decent KDR in BattleField... In Taysom's head he is an NFL QB, in his toolkit he is not (or it remains to be seen if he is). Rugby Saint II, st thomas and Boston Saint like this.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by TheOak This is an often missed but very important teaching moment. It is all fine and dandy to tell children "you can be anything that you want to". But, by the time adulthood arrives adequate time should have been spent determining what skill sets are present. I started working during the summer when I was 13 as a welders helper on a pipeline crew. Each summer my job was different and by the time I was 17 I had spent time sandblasting, painting, chipping buckshot, driving dozers and tractors, working on bulldozers and tractors, plowing, bush-hogging, levy repair. general farm work etc... This gave me a wide variety of application experience and an understanding of my natural abilities. Spend a summer on a 25 year old Massey Ferguson and you'll get a feel for your mechanical and trouble shooting talents lol. Recent generations have pumped out young adults with a head full of goals and dreams but an absolutely empty toolbox or applications understanding outside of a through misunderstanding of our government, adequate complaint and sarcasm prowess, and a decent KDR in BattleField... In Taysom's head he is an NFL QB, in his toolkit he is not (or it remains to be seen if he is). Confirmed , your a Jack-0-A-Ts Oak proud American Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-05-2021, 07:51 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Honestly, whilst Drew retiring makes us worse, I'm excited to see what the team, specifically the offense, can do. I hope Payton opens up the offense a bit and gets the QB, whoever it is, to push the ball down the field, rather than dump offs or check downs. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,759	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by dizzle88 Honestly, whilst Drew retiring makes us worse, I'm excited to see what the team, specifically the offense, can do. I hope Payton opens up the offense a bit and gets the QB, whoever it is, to push the ball down the field, rather than dump offs or check downs. Over the last couple of weeks on NFL Radio topics have included looking into the teams and their prospects for 2021. More than not have said they expect more out of the offense than what we have seen the last couple of years. Injuries to Brees had a lot to do with that, but so did injuries to Thomas and others. Most felt Winston could give more of an explosive dynamic which has been missing. What will be missed is Brees' leadership on and off the field. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Taysom Hill: “Really nice” to tailor all offseason work to playing QB Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Over the last couple of weeks on NFL Radio topics have included looking into the teams and their prospects for 2021. More than not have said they expect more out of the offense than what we have seen the last couple of years. Injuries to Brees had a lot to do with that, but so did injuries to Thomas and others. Most felt Winston could give more of an explosive dynamic which has been missing. What will be missed is Brees' leadership on and off the field. That is where Kamara and Jordan and D Davis can hopefully fill that void. y all accounts it seems like those guys have the character to do so. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.