Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints

06-29-2021, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Agreed…, I understand his logic most of the time, even wrt this topic, although I may not agree with those beliefs, they aren’t poorly formed arguments, imvho.

JP smart. We definitely agree with the eyeball test, running the ball and D.

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2021, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS.

Why keep it simple? Winston has a reputation for being extremely intelligent when it comes to digesting football information. There's every reason to believe that by now he should be able to handle anything Payton throws at him. And he definitely can't be as slow as Hill at making reads once the ball is snapped.

jeanpierre · 06-29-2021, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Reality is escaping JP in this case.

You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...

jeanpierre · 06-29-2021, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs

Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

Boston Saint · 06-29-2021, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady.

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2021, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact...

Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

If Brady was the only addition they would not have won it all. Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette all played a big role especially in the playoff run, and rookies Tristan Werfs (RT) and Antoine Winfield, Jr. were additions in the 2020 that played major roles, as well.

AsylumGuido · 06-29-2021, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...

I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize.

jeanpierre · 06-30-2021, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize.

No, you really are detached because of your #fanatacism...

Several here have clearly demonstrated you were wrong and you're refusal to admit same is pathological...

jeanpierre · 06-30-2021, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady.

Brady treatment? He's been on the wrong side of the officials and league with a few scandals, so that'd be a hard sell...

K Major · 06-30-2021, 11:56 AM

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...897006594?s=20

06-29-2021, 02:27 PM	#61
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06-29-2021, 02:54 PM	#62
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Winston needs tight reigns and a game plan from Payton's son's play book. I believe Payton can get him ready if he starts simple and adds the wrinkles. Keep it simple stupid. KISS. Why keep it simple? Winston has a reputation for being extremely intelligent when it comes to digesting football information. There's every reason to believe that by now he should be able to handle anything Payton throws at him. And he definitely can't be as slow as Hill at making reads once the ball is snapped.

06-29-2021, 03:27 PM	#63
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Reality is escaping JP in this case. *You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...* gosaints1 likes this.

06-29-2021, 03:29 PM	#64
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 To be fair there was much more at play than simply swapping QBs Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact... Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place...

06-29-2021, 03:38 PM	#65
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact... Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place... I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady. iceshack149, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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06-29-2021, 03:48 PM	#66
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Then ask that anyone name the other positions that were swapped that had as much an impact... Other key moves, pieces had been made or were already in place... If Brady was the only addition they would not have won it all. Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette all played a big role especially in the playoff run, and rookies Tristan Werfs (RT) and Antoine Winfield, Jr. were additions in the 2020 that played major roles, as well. saintsfan1976 likes this.

06-29-2021, 03:50 PM	#67
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre *You're the last user on this sight that should comment on #reality...* I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize.

06-30-2021, 10:12 AM	#68
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm more seated in reality than you will ever realize. No, you really are detached because of your #fanatacism... Several here have clearly demonstrated you were wrong and you're refusal to admit same is pathological... iceshack149 likes this.

06-30-2021, 10:14 AM	#69
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’ll give you another swap JP...the ref treatment. Tampa went from last in the league in penalties per game in 2019 to 4th fewest in 2020. Refs let them play more aggressively on both sides of the ball with Brady. Brady treatment? He's been on the wrong side of the officials and league with a few scandals, so that'd be a hard sell...

06-30-2021, 11:56 AM	#70
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jameis Winston’s potential with the New Orleans Saints https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...897006594?s=20