Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina

The Dude · 09-21-2021, 05:35 PM

There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense.

dizzle88 · 09-21-2021, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense.

And if that is the case, that's understandable. QB's like Brees don't come around often and I think he hid a lot of the deficiencies of this team.

His pre-snap reads when his arm lost strength, meant the OL barely had to block for longer than a second. In his prime, he'd make UDFA's into pro bowlers.

I don't think any QB on this roster currently can do that. Jameis seems like he needs the situation to be perfect to make a play, if it's not, the ball is going the other way.
Taysom, adds a different dimension to this offense, but can't progress reads and Kamara is a non entity with Taysom at QB.

As for Ian Book, if we are way out of the playoff race come mid season, I think the young man deserves a shot.

I think Payton needs to get rid of some under performers, to allow the offense to restock a little.

K Major · 09-21-2021, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense.

voodooido · 09-21-2021, 09:46 PM

JW has always been hot and cold. This last game was one of the worst I saw him play.

SmashMouth · 09-22-2021, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

JW has always been hot and cold. This last game was one of the worst I saw him play.

Agreed... this is his first as a Saint. However as SP stated, the OL had a lot more to do with it than WR separation, prolly add in a sprinkle of referee calls. If we presumably have a top 5 OL, it surely didn't show it in this game.

neugey · 09-21-2021, 10:19 PM

We need to fix the protections on the OL and see some more from Winston. We need to see 5 games at a bare minimum before arriving at a verdict on Winston, as long as he is healthy. Speaking of, Jameis needs to slide because he is getting lit up on some of these scrambles.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-22-2021, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

We need to fix the protections on the OL and see some more from Winston. We need to see 5 games at a bare minimum before arriving at a verdict on Winston, as long as he is healthy. Speaking of, Jameis needs to slide because he is getting lit up on some of these scrambles.

Im not gonna say yes or no until I see what Winston can with a Saints offense with MT. Taysom in his four games had a full cupboard of weapons from MT, Sanders, and Cook. I think CSP know this and will wait til then as well to decide. Which I think Winston will be fine. The Saints has the worst receiving corps in the nfl, a bunch of no. 3’s and no. 4’s. Just as bad as Brady’s last year in NE.

K Major · 09-22-2021, 08:57 AM

Patriots are up next fellas ...

Time to redirect the attention to Foxborough. Won't be an easy game although I'm sure this team will play considerably better on Sunday.

Defensively, expect Bellicheck to target the weak spot on the O-line... The A gap and Peat.

I'm hopeful we get Lattimore & Ceedy back as well.

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09-21-2021, 05:35 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,066	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense. jnormand and dizzle88 like this.
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09-21-2021, 05:48 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,548	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by The Dude There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense. And if that is the case, that's understandable. QB's like Brees don't come around often and I think he hid a lot of the deficiencies of this team. His pre-snap reads when his arm lost strength, meant the OL barely had to block for longer than a second. In his prime, he'd make UDFA's into pro bowlers. I don't think any QB on this roster currently can do that. Jameis seems like he needs the situation to be perfect to make a play, if it's not, the ball is going the other way. Taysom, adds a different dimension to this offense, but can't progress reads and Kamara is a non entity with Taysom at QB. As for Ian Book, if we are way out of the playoff race come mid season, I think the young man deserves a shot. I think Payton needs to get rid of some under performers, to allow the offense to restock a little.
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09-21-2021, 05:50 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by The Dude There’s also a very real probability that we just aren’t a very good team this year. Probability really. We just don’t have the personnel on offense. leilung, WW_Who_Dat, SaintGnome and 1 others like this.

09-21-2021, 09:46 PM	#4
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,850	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina JW has always been hot and cold. This last game was one of the worst I saw him play.
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09-22-2021, 07:59 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,080 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by voodooido JW has always been hot and cold. This last game was one of the worst I saw him play. Agreed... this is his first as a Saint. However as SP stated, the OL had a lot more to do with it than WR separation, prolly add in a sprinkle of referee calls. If we presumably have a top 5 OL, it surely didn't show it in this game.

09-21-2021, 10:19 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,879 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina We need to fix the protections on the OL and see some more from Winston. We need to see 5 games at a bare minimum before arriving at a verdict on Winston, as long as he is healthy. Speaking of, Jameis needs to slide because he is getting lit up on some of these scrambles.

09-22-2021, 07:32 AM	#7
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Originally Posted by neugey We need to fix the protections on the OL and see some more from Winston. We need to see 5 games at a bare minimum before arriving at a verdict on Winston, as long as he is healthy. Speaking of, Jameis needs to slide because he is getting lit up on some of these scrambles. Im not gonna say yes or no until I see what Winston can with a Saints offense with MT. Taysom in his four games had a full cupboard of weapons from MT, Sanders, and Cook. I think CSP know this and will wait til then as well to decide. Which I think Winston will be fine. The Saints has the worst receiving corps in the nfl, a bunch of no. 3’s and no. 4’s. Just as bad as Brady’s last year in NE.

09-22-2021, 08:57 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' loss to Carolina Patriots are up next fellas ... Time to redirect the attention to Foxborough. Won't be an easy game although I'm sure this team will play considerably better on Sunday. Defensively, expect Bellicheck to target the weak spot on the O-line... The A gap and Peat. I'm hopeful we get Lattimore & Ceedy back as well. iceshack149, neugey, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.