Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots

K Major · 09-28-2021, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I noticed this, as well ...

https://twitter.com/MaddyHudak_94/st...81611543810060

Sorry Maddy but Ramz is the least of my worries on that O line. Share a video tweet of Ruiz or Tumbleweed Peat from the last 3 games. It's more than a handful of awful plays and effort. In that second vid clip, how long is Ramz supposed to stay engaged with his man before a possible hold? Then she goes on to say "should have been an easy push to the ground". Nothing is easy in the NFL. JW had 4+ seconds of protection and no one was open downfield.

McCoy can't come back soon enough. He's been a missing cog on this line.

Lots of blame to go around however saying "O effort" is a bit short-sighted on her part.

SmashMouth · 09-28-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Just sayin' ...

https://twitter.com/amysrich/status/1442531292013338624

Mahomes has more INTs than Winston?

jnormand · 09-28-2021, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Mahomes has more INTs than Winston?

Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th.

Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way.

K Major · 09-28-2021, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th.

Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way.

So what do we do J? Insert Trevor S? Taysom H or the rookie Ian Book

?

I just don't see this offense or ANY QB on this roster doing anything remotely better than JW without weapons at WR/TE. Is Winston holding on to the ball a second too long? Maybe but I don't see any guys downfield creating any separation whatsoever. Route runners - see Chiefs, Rams, or Cowboys.

Collectively, this entire offensive line needs to perform better as well. It ain't all on Jameis.

#9 has truly spoiled us as fans.

iceshack149 · 09-28-2021, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th.

Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way.

I would agree that Winston has been a bit unremarkable outside of that nice TD pass to the wee-man in week one but he is avoiding the turnovers as well. It seems like he's playing a bit scared right now but I'm not ready to see any of the saints backups in the QB role yet.

Boston Saint · 09-28-2021, 11:43 AM

On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔

Rugby Saint II · 09-28-2021, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔

Oh the irony!

rezburna · 09-28-2021, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔

The media is against Jameis Winston. Every single thing he does is put under a microscope and hyper scrutinized. They replayed his post game interview where he mentioned what his trainer said and purposely cut it short as if he didn’t repeat what he was told a few seconds later. He has so much pressure on his face. The fact he was willing to try and put this team on his shoulders after somebody like Brees shows me a lot of toughness and character. Our fan base doesn’t make it easier either.

jnormand · 09-28-2021, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

So what do we do J? Insert Trevor S? Taysom H or the rookie Ian Book ?

I just don't see this offense or ANY QB on this roster doing anything remotely better than JW without weapons at WR/TE. Is Winston holding on to the ball a second too long? Maybe but I don't see any guys downfield creating any separation whatsoever. Route runners - see Chiefs, Rams, or Cowboys.

Collectively, this entire offensive line needs to perform better as well. It ain't all on Jameis.

#9 has truly spoiled us as fans.

Agreed K! I'm not saying that it's all on him man. I was just saying that him having less Ints than Mahomes doesn't resonate as some kind of awesome stat to me when he doesn't throw the ball much and doesn't do anything really spectacular. i was replying to Smashy's post. That's all. And nah, idk if we have a better QB on the roster. Certainly not Trevor!

Yes Brees spoiled us. Lol. Everyone is gonna suck compared to him. Lol. There's no way around that.

K Major · 09-28-2021, 12:10 PM

I understand it's a week-to-week league however we should be able to gain some momentum offensively against the Giants on Sunday.

They (HC JJudge/media) are already hinting that Jason Garrett could be relieved of his OC duties if they continue to underperform. This is a Jacksonville Jaguar level bad team.

09-28-2021, 09:23 AM	#71
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I noticed this, as well ... https://twitter.com/MaddyHudak_94/st...81611543810060 Sorry Maddy but Ramz is the least of my worries on that O line. Share a video tweet of Ruiz or Tumbleweed Peat from the last 3 games. It's more than a handful of awful plays and effort. In that second vid clip, how long is Ramz supposed to stay engaged with his man before a possible hold? Then she goes on to say "should have been an easy push to the ground". Nothing is easy in the NFL. JW had 4+ seconds of protection and no one was open downfield. McCoy can't come back soon enough. He's been a missing cog on this line. Lots of blame to go around however saying "O effort" is a bit short-sighted on her part. SmashMouth likes this.
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09-28-2021, 10:01 AM	#72
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Just sayin' ... https://twitter.com/amysrich/status/1442531292013338624 Mahomes has more INTs than Winston? neugey and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-28-2021, 10:30 AM	#73
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mahomes has more INTs than Winston? Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th. Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way. SmashMouth and Thirty3 like this.

09-28-2021, 10:49 AM	#74
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by jnormand Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th. Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way. So what do we do J? Insert Trevor S? Taysom H or the rookie Ian Book ? I just don't see this offense or ANY QB on this roster doing anything remotely better than JW without weapons at WR/TE. Is Winston holding on to the ball a second too long? Maybe but I don't see any guys downfield creating any separation whatsoever. Route runners - see Chiefs, Rams, or Cowboys. Collectively, this entire offensive line needs to perform better as well. It ain't all on Jameis. #9 has truly spoiled us as fans. iceshack149, jnormand, AsylumGuido and 4 others like this.

09-28-2021, 11:28 AM	#75
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by jnormand Ha!!! Cmon man! Winston has only attempted 63 passes in 3 games. He only has 387 yards. Good enough for 30th in the NFL in both categories. Btw, he's only been completing 60% of his passes. Also good for 30th. Winston has done nothing impressive. I'm not buying into him yet. No way. I would agree that Winston has been a bit unremarkable outside of that nice TD pass to the wee-man in week one but he is avoiding the turnovers as well. It seems like he's playing a bit scared right now but I'm not ready to see any of the saints backups in the QB role yet.

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09-28-2021, 11:43 AM	#76
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Boston Saint On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔 Oh the irony!

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by Boston Saint On watching people’s and media reaction to the game I’ve noticed a common idea. There is a rush to criticize Winston for his low passing yardage total, yet he is criticized for throwing a pass that resulted in a TD. 🤔 The media is against Jameis Winston. Every single thing he does is put under a microscope and hyper scrutinized. They replayed his post game interview where he mentioned what his trainer said and purposely cut it short as if he didn’t repeat what he was told a few seconds later. He has so much pressure on his face. The fact he was willing to try and put this team on his shoulders after somebody like Brees shows me a lot of toughness and character. Our fan base doesn’t make it easier either. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, darksoul35 and 2 others like this.

09-28-2021, 12:05 PM	#79
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots Originally Posted by K Major So what do we do J? Insert Trevor S? Taysom H or the rookie Ian Book ? I just don't see this offense or ANY QB on this roster doing anything remotely better than JW without weapons at WR/TE. Is Winston holding on to the ball a second too long? Maybe but I don't see any guys downfield creating any separation whatsoever. Route runners - see Chiefs, Rams, or Cowboys. Collectively, this entire offensive line needs to perform better as well. It ain't all on Jameis. #9 has truly spoiled us as fans. Agreed K! I'm not saying that it's all on him man. I was just saying that him having less Ints than Mahomes doesn't resonate as some kind of awesome stat to me when he doesn't throw the ball much and doesn't do anything really spectacular. i was replying to Smashy's post. That's all. And nah, idk if we have a better QB on the roster. Certainly not Trevor! Yes Brees spoiled us. Lol. Everyone is gonna suck compared to him. Lol. There's no way around that. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

09-28-2021, 12:10 PM	#80
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Win over the Patriots I understand it's a week-to-week league however we should be able to gain some momentum offensively against the Giants on Sunday. They (HC JJudge/media) are already hinting that Jason Garrett could be relieved of his OC duties if they continue to underperform. This is a Jacksonville Jaguar level bad team. jnormand and SmashMouth like this.