2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2022, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes sir.

Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule out him transitioning to guard.

Oh JP, don't let the 6'4 (length) fool ya. Look at how rookie of year - 2021 (former 1st rounder pick #13) Rashawn Slater dominated at OT.

Almost identical measurables to Ikem.

I was listening to Moving the Chains last week and they were talking about the OL prospects and specifically mentioned Ekwonu as someone not to overlook because he wasn't 6'7". They said fans and media get too hung up on some measurables such as height and arm length when it comes to offensive linemen and ignore technique.

Personally I wouldn't mind another Wolfpacker on the team. Vaughan Johnson was a pretty good one.

K Major · 02-28-2022, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

So much WR talent this year I can see waiting.

So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting.

Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR.

Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc.

Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers.

Can we please go get one in 2022?

Boston Saint · 02-28-2022, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR.

Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc.

Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers.

Can we please go get one in 2022?

If they do/can retain Winston he can surely succeed at QB with a focused MT and a guy like you describe.

jeanpierre · 02-28-2022, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes sir.

Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule him out transitioning to guard.

Oh JP, don't let the 6'4 (length) fool ya. Look at how rookie of year - 2021 (former 1st rounder pick #13) Rashawn Slater dominated at OT.

Almost identical measurables to Ikem.

Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2022, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...

Sean is no longer in the picture.

saintfan · 02-28-2022, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sean is no longer in the picture.

From the guy who's still digging through his trash and posting his every move here, speculating on where he'll land and what his reasoning is/was. You don't get the make that statement without getting pushback. Little speedo wants his cake and to eat it too?

Boston Saint · 02-28-2022, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sean is no longer in the picture.

Sounds a bit argumentative to me.

saintfan · 02-28-2022, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sounds a bit argumentative to me.

Takes a lot of nerve if you ask me (and I know you didn't). Even NOW, after a month of being shown his reflection, his behavior is maybe more subtle, but he's still an a***ole. An arrogant, racist, a***ole. Among many other things of course.

Crusader · 02-28-2022, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...

Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.

jeanpierre · 02-28-2022, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.

You would think that would be the case.

The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL...

He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking...

But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...

02-28-2022, 10:04 AM	#521
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by K Major Yes sir. Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule out him transitioning to guard. Oh JP, don't let the 6'4 (length) fool ya. Look at how rookie of year - 2021 (former 1st rounder pick #13) Rashawn Slater dominated at OT. Almost identical measurables to Ikem. I was listening to Moving the Chains last week and they were talking about the OL prospects and specifically mentioned Ekwonu as someone not to overlook because he wasn't 6'7". They said fans and media get too hung up on some measurables such as height and arm length when it comes to offensive linemen and ignore technique. Personally I wouldn't mind another Wolfpacker on the team. Vaughan Johnson was a pretty good one.

02-28-2022, 11:07 AM	#522
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 So much WR talent this year I can see waiting. So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting. Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR. Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc. Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers. Can we please go get one in 2022? saintfan, Rell&Gold and Boston Saint like this.

02-28-2022, 11:15 AM	#523
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by K Major Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR. Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc. Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers. Can we please go get one in 2022? If they do/can retain Winston he can surely succeed at QB with a focused MT and a guy like you describe. Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

02-28-2022, 12:31 PM	#524
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by K Major Yes sir. Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule him out transitioning to guard. Oh JP, don't let the 6'4 (length) fool ya. Look at how rookie of year - 2021 (former 1st rounder pick #13) Rashawn Slater dominated at OT. Almost identical measurables to Ikem. Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews... saintfan likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by jeanpierre Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews... Sean is no longer in the picture.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sean is no longer in the picture. From the guy who's still digging through his trash and posting his every move here, speculating on where he'll land and what his reasoning is/was. You don't get the make that statement without getting pushback. Little speedo wants his cake and to eat it too?

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sean is no longer in the picture. Sounds a bit argumentative to me. saintfan likes this.

02-28-2022, 02:01 PM	#528
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sounds a bit argumentative to me. Takes a lot of nerve if you ask me (and I know you didn't). Even NOW, after a month of being shown his reflection, his behavior is maybe more subtle, but he's still an a*ole. An arrogant, racist, a*ole. Among many other things of course.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by jeanpierre Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews... Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.

02-28-2022, 05:35 PM	#530
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by Crusader Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game. You would think that would be the case. The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL... He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking... But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...
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