2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting

saintsfan1976 · 02-25-2022, 11:46 AM

So much WR talent this year I can see waiting.

So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting.

K Major · 02-28-2022, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

So much WR talent this year I can see waiting.

So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting.

Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR.

Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc.

Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers.

Can we please go get one in 2022?

Boston Saint · 02-28-2022, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR.

Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc.

Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers.

Can we please go get one in 2022?

If they do/can retain Winston he can surely succeed at QB with a focused MT and a guy like you describe.

ChrisXVI · 02-25-2022, 02:19 PM

I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT.

halloween 65 · 02-25-2022, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT.

Not but a couple good LT in the draft, G yes, RT so so. I believe D in the 1st also.

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2022, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT.

You may be discounting Winston at QB.

Defense. Yes, absolutely. And why not?

Run the ball. Sure. Haven't we all been screaming at SP to run the ball more or at least with more consistency?

IMO, Jameis in the same offense with a couple upgraded weapons can burn a defense at any moment.

So maybe it's "balance" you're referring to. Which, believe it or not, does win games and Superbowls even.

I'm fine with a balanced attack and solid defense!

So if they shore up needs in FA then go with BPA in draft, how can you argue

jeanpierre · 02-26-2022, 09:03 AM

Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56...

Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter...

Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs...

Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers...

Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer...

saintfan · 02-26-2022, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56...

Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter...

Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs...

Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers...

Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer...

Thanks for putting some numbers to it - and I'm not suggesting we can't win with Jameis. I think we can. The honest look shows our offense, even when healthy and not Covid-stricken was not great. Not JETS bad, but not great. Something wasn't right. It's a new year, and with every new year there is new hope.

K Major · 02-26-2022, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56...

Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter...

Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs...

Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers...

Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer...

5-2 (14 td/3 int ratio) as a QB in NO coach & throwing to "paltry" scrubs. Kinda hard to put up Madden numbers when your WR core is either practice squad material or a former 1st round busts. You've even mentioned it several times that Callaway should change jersey numbers. Saints need weapons at WR. Legit targets. Guys who can run routes.

Curious, who is the answer at QB in 2022 for New Orleans? Wentz? Mariota? Taysom Hill? Ian Book? The upcoming draft perhaps

Speaking of "overpaying"... what was the front office thinking with that Taysom Hill contract? That's a ton of money to give a guy who was injured & a backup. Sean Payton with a lot of lip service on "the next Steve Young is in the building" nonsense.

But I digress

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saintsfan1976 · 02-28-2022, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56...

Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter...

Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs...

Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers...

Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer...

Are you trying to play Devil's Advocate here?

You'd have to NOT watch any of those games to think Winston was overrated.

02-25-2022, 11:46 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting So much WR talent this year I can see waiting. So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting.

02-28-2022, 10:07 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 So much WR talent this year I can see waiting. So much talent at WR this year I can see them not waiting. Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR. Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc. Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers. Can we please go get one in 2022?

02-28-2022, 10:15 AM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by K Major Just looking back at the last few drafts ... specifically WR. Waddle, Ja'Marr C, Toney, CeeDee L, Judy, Jefferson, etc. Teams selected these guys in the 1st rd. All of these guys are game-changers. Can we please go get one in 2022? If they do/can retain Winston he can surely succeed at QB with a focused MT and a guy like you describe.

02-25-2022, 02:19 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT.

02-25-2022, 04:14 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT. Not but a couple good LT in the draft, G yes, RT so so. I believe D in the 1st also.

02-26-2022, 08:27 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don’t really want us to go defense in the first. It’s just looking a little more clear what kind of team we’re going to be: defense/run the ball. If we don’t go defense it’ll be LT. You may be discounting Winston at QB. Defense. Yes, absolutely. And why not? Run the ball. Sure. Haven't we all been screaming at SP to run the ball more or at least with more consistency? IMO, Jameis in the same offense with a couple upgraded weapons can burn a defense at any moment. So maybe it's "balance" you're referring to. Which, believe it or not, does win games and Superbowls even. I'm fine with a balanced attack and solid defense! So if they shore up needs in FA then go with BPA in draft, how can you argue

02-26-2022, 09:03 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56... Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter... Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs... Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers... Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer...
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02-26-2022, 09:22 AM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56... Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter... Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs... Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers... Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer... Thanks for putting some numbers to it - and I'm not suggesting we can't win with Jameis. I think we can. The honest look shows our offense, even when healthy and not Covid-stricken was not great. Not JETS bad, but not great. Something wasn't right. It's a new year, and with every new year there is new hope.

02-26-2022, 10:32 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,844 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56... Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter... Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs... Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers... Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer... 5-2 (14 td/3 int ratio) as a QB in NO coach & throwing to "paltry" scrubs. Kinda hard to put up Madden numbers when your WR core is either practice squad material or a former 1st round busts. You've even mentioned it several times that Callaway should change jersey numbers. Saints need weapons at WR. Legit targets. Guys who can run routes. Curious, who is the answer at QB in 2022 for New Orleans? Wentz? Mariota? Taysom Hill? Ian Book? The upcoming draft perhaps Speaking of "overpaying"... what was the front office thinking with that Taysom Hill contract? That's a ton of money to give a guy who was injured & a backup. Sean Payton with a lot of lip service on "the next Steve Young is in the building" nonsense. But I digress .

02-28-2022, 06:05 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: Draft Prospects, Scouting Originally Posted by jeanpierre Jameis Winston PaYds/Gm in 2021 - 148, 111, 128, 226, 279, 222, 56... Only one game over 250 PaYd; injured in the last game, but he was injured late in the second quarter... Of his 14 PaTDs, nine (9) came in two (2) of seven (7) games - the Green Bay outlier, and the other against a Redskins team missing three of its five DBs... Jameis Winston also had the benefit of playing with the healthier, better offensive linemen this past season and still that were his paltry numbers... Sorry, not sorry, Winston is overrated and we definitely shouldn't overpay - he's not the answer... Are you trying to play Devil's Advocate here? You'd have to NOT watch any of those games to think Winston was overrated.

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