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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Yes sir. Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule him out transitioning to guard. Oh JP, don't let the ...

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Old 02-28-2022, 11:31 AM   #1
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Yes sir.

Technique/hand speed is good, athletic & dominated in the run game. His tape shows that he is very, very strong. I wouldn't rule him out transitioning to guard.

Oh JP, don't let the 6'4 (length) fool ya. Look at how rookie of year - 2021 (former 1st rounder pick #13) Rashawn Slater dominated at OT.

Almost identical measurables to Ikem.
Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...
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Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...
Sean is no longer in the picture.
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Sean is no longer in the picture.
From the guy who's still digging through his trash and posting his every move here, speculating on where he'll land and what his reasoning is/was. You don't get the make that statement without getting pushback. Little speedo wants his cake and to eat it too?

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Sean is no longer in the picture.
Sounds a bit argumentative to me.
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Sounds a bit argumentative to me.
Takes a lot of nerve if you ask me (and I know you didn't). Even NOW, after a month of being shown his reflection, his behavior is maybe more subtle, but he's still an a***ole. An arrogant, racist, a***ole. Among many other things of course.
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Irregardless of how I feel, the Saints Scouting Krewe and Sean have stated their criteria (types) for certain positions; this has come up with respect to DE and IOL in past interviews...
Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.
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Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.
You would think that would be the case.

The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL...

He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking...

But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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You would think that would be the case.

The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL...

He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking...

But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...
I can sort of understand the thinking, long arms, bigger frame, of course it will give mor reach and range. Just that it usually comes at the expense of push and drive.

Jahri was the best of the bunch... IMHO he is the second best lineman we've had after Roaf.
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I can sort of understand the thinking, long arms, bigger frame, of course it will give mor reach and range. Just that it usually comes at the expense of push and drive.

Jahri was the best of the bunch... IMHO he is the second best lineman we've had after Roaf.
That run that Ramczyk had a couple of seasons ago, not allowing a sack and just two pressures against as many as seven HOF DEs was pretty impressive and under appreciated...
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Sounds quite odd in wanting to have taller guys on the inside. They only get in the way of the passer. Guards and Centers are usually more runblockers than pass blockers since the technique becomes much more similar on the inside due to space constraints. That often leads teams to looking for shorter guys with big lower bodies so that they have a low center of gravity and the ability to anchor in the pass game and create a lot of force in the run game.
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You would think that would be the case.

The first time I'd heard the Saints mention they had a preferred type or size for IOL was when Sean was talking about signing Goodwin, and he went into length on the IOL...

He said that was what attracted them to Carl Nicks was that as a big man like that engaged, it gave 'em some more range to get push on the inside. First I'd heard that thinking...

But if you look at what they've signed, used on the inside, even Center, rarely did they deploy guys 6' 3" at C or even below 6' 5" with Jahri Evans being the exception...
Apparently these so called requirements are no longer in play.

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