AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD.

WhoDat!656 · 12-28-2021, 05:12 PM

This play is why the Saints are in the position they are!

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dizzle88 · 12-28-2021, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

This play is why the Saints are in the position they are!

https://youtu.be/L1BgAszj9CQ

****ing Ruiz.

BakoSaint · 12-29-2021, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Sadly Ruiz and Peat aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next year.

Because some a-hole who goes around calling himself a wizard or warlock or something has the nasty habit of ‘restructuring’ all our worst contracts so we can never cut a bad player because every year we restructure their deal to make their salary 50 cents this year and a 50 million cap hit if they are cut. We need to cut Peat and Loomis, cap be damned. We need a light at the end of the tunnel not settling to live in cap hell forever.

FinSaint · 12-29-2021, 03:02 AM

It wasn't impressive by any means, but taking everything into consideration - it went pretty much as well as it could have.

The offense was just a shadow of what the Saints could field on the paper if all players were available, so that in mind I can accept that performance and move on.

The same goes for the whole season. The amount of setbacks and challenges the Saints have faced would be insurmountable to any team, and even with all of that the team is looking at a chance of having a winning record. To me that says a lot about the organization, the coaches and the players the Saints have.

Do you guys really think the Bucs' offensive numbers would look like they do if Evans hadn't played all year, Kyle Trask would be slinging the ball instead of Brady and they'd be missing Marpet, Smith and Wirfs on the O-line?!

During the game, a graphic flashed which said the Saints have had 57 different starters this season, which was a new NFL record with two games to go (one when comparing to 16 game seasons). They have a bunch of players on the IR, they've had to deal with suspensions (Onyenata and Harris/Harty), and had 22 players sidelined by Covid against Miami.

I don't know why this game wasn't actually postponed, because I think one of the games was just moved when one of the teams had 25 players on the Covid list, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have as many players on the IR as the Saints - maybe because it was MNF.

All in all, it isn't all gloom and doom. The defense has been really impressive and the offense is fighting for survival with guys signed off the street.

saintsfan1976 · 12-29-2021, 08:40 AM

I keep thinking we've hit rock bottom but apparently the 2021 season knows no end...

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2021, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

It wasn't impressive by any means, but taking everything into consideration - it went pretty much as well as it could have.

The offense was just a shadow of what the Saints could field on the paper if all players were available, so that in mind I can accept that performance and move on.

The same goes for the whole season. The amount of setbacks and challenges the Saints have faced would be insurmountable to any team, and even with all of that the team is looking at a chance of having a winning record. To me that says a lot about the organization, the coaches and the players the Saints have.

Do you guys really think the Bucs' offensive numbers would look like they do if Evans hadn't played all year, Kyle Trask would be slinging the ball instead of Brady and they'd be missing Marpet, Smith and Wirfs on the O-line?!

During the game, a graphic flashed which said the Saints have had 57 different starters this season, which was a new NFL record with two games to go (one when comparing to 16 game seasons). They have a bunch of players on the IR, they've had to deal with suspensions (Onyenata and Harris/Harty), and had 22 players sidelined by Covid against Miami.

I don't know why this game wasn't actually postponed, because I think one of the games was just moved when one of the teams had 25 players on the Covid list, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have as many players on the IR as the Saints - maybe because it was MNF.

All in all, it isn't all gloom and doom. The defense has been really impressive and the offense is fighting for survival with guys signed off the street.

^^^^
100%

K Major · 12-29-2021, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I keep thinking we've hit rock bottom but apparently the 2021 season knows no end...

Indeed.

Boston Saint · 12-29-2021, 10:12 AM

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K Major · 12-29-2021, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

****ing Ruiz.

His name is coming up way too often in the trenches last two seasons. He's not a good guard. Weird draft choice. The same could be said with Peat.

A lot of folks were mystified by those picks ... and here we are.

My confidence meter in his ability is low.

saintsfan1976 · 12-30-2021, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

His name is coming up way too often in the trenches last two seasons. He's not a good guard. Weird draft choice. The same could be said with Peat.

A lot of folks were mystified by those picks ... and here we are.

My confidence meter in his ability is low.

Mine as well.

Is it me or does Payton have more tolerance with o lineman than other positions? Could it come from his QB days?

12-28-2021, 05:20 PM	#52
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 This play is why the Saints are in the position they are! https://youtu.be/L1BgAszj9CQ ****ing Ruiz.

12-29-2021, 02:31 AM	#53
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Sadly Ruiz and Peat aren’t going anywhere. They’ll be starting next year. Because some a-hole who goes around calling himself a wizard or warlock or something has the nasty habit of ‘restructuring’ all our worst contracts so we can never cut a bad player because every year we restructure their deal to make their salary 50 cents this year and a 50 million cap hit if they are cut. We need to cut Peat and Loomis, cap be damned. We need a light at the end of the tunnel not settling to live in cap hell forever. mapcow and ChrisXVI like this.
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12-29-2021, 03:02 AM	#54
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. It wasn't impressive by any means, but taking everything into consideration - it went pretty much as well as it could have. The offense was just a shadow of what the Saints could field on the paper if all players were available, so that in mind I can accept that performance and move on. The same goes for the whole season. The amount of setbacks and challenges the Saints have faced would be insurmountable to any team, and even with all of that the team is looking at a chance of having a winning record. To me that says a lot about the organization, the coaches and the players the Saints have. Do you guys really think the Bucs' offensive numbers would look like they do if Evans hadn't played all year, Kyle Trask would be slinging the ball instead of Brady and they'd be missing Marpet, Smith and Wirfs on the O-line?! During the game, a graphic flashed which said the Saints have had 57 different starters this season, which was a new NFL record with two games to go (one when comparing to 16 game seasons). They have a bunch of players on the IR, they've had to deal with suspensions (Onyenata and Harris/Harty), and had 22 players sidelined by Covid against Miami. I don't know why this game wasn't actually postponed, because I think one of the games was just moved when one of the teams had 25 players on the Covid list, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have as many players on the IR as the Saints - maybe because it was MNF. All in all, it isn't all gloom and doom. The defense has been really impressive and the offense is fighting for survival with guys signed off the street. saintfan, leilung, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.
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12-29-2021, 08:40 AM	#55
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. I keep thinking we've hit rock bottom but apparently the 2021 season knows no end... Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

12-29-2021, 09:14 AM	#56
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,216	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by FinSaint It wasn't impressive by any means, but taking everything into consideration - it went pretty much as well as it could have. The offense was just a shadow of what the Saints could field on the paper if all players were available, so that in mind I can accept that performance and move on. The same goes for the whole season. The amount of setbacks and challenges the Saints have faced would be insurmountable to any team, and even with all of that the team is looking at a chance of having a winning record. To me that says a lot about the organization, the coaches and the players the Saints have. Do you guys really think the Bucs' offensive numbers would look like they do if Evans hadn't played all year, Kyle Trask would be slinging the ball instead of Brady and they'd be missing Marpet, Smith and Wirfs on the O-line?! During the game, a graphic flashed which said the Saints have had 57 different starters this season, which was a new NFL record with two games to go (one when comparing to 16 game seasons). They have a bunch of players on the IR, they've had to deal with suspensions (Onyenata and Harris/Harty), and had 22 players sidelined by Covid against Miami. I don't know why this game wasn't actually postponed, because I think one of the games was just moved when one of the teams had 25 players on the Covid list, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have as many players on the IR as the Saints - maybe because it was MNF. All in all, it isn't all gloom and doom. The defense has been really impressive and the offense is fighting for survival with guys signed off the street. ^^^^ 100%

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by dizzle88 ****ing Ruiz. His name is coming up way too often in the trenches last two seasons. He's not a good guard. Weird draft choice. The same could be said with Peat. A lot of folks were mystified by those picks ... and here we are. My confidence meter in his ability is low. saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: AS FANS, WE DESERVE BETTER. PERIOD. Originally Posted by K Major His name is coming up way too often in the trenches last two seasons. He's not a good guard. Weird draft choice. The same could be said with Peat. A lot of folks were mystified by those picks ... and here we are. My confidence meter in his ability is low. Mine as well. Is it me or does Payton have more tolerance with o lineman than other positions? Could it come from his QB days?