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Boston Saint 06-19-2022 11:38 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 953796)
Is this even MT in the video!!! His dreads sure grew VERY long in a year.

I’m not doubting it is him. I am wondering why he isn’t posting videos that remove the doubt.

At this point I’ve seen as much verifiable footage of Bigfoot as I have of Michael Thomas working out and being ready to play.

Boston Saint 06-19-2022 11:50 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953787)

Got a question. What exactly, and I mean exactly, has Michael Thomas done that can be clearly labeled as a diva type act? Not saying anyone's lying, but I'm just having trouble identifying those clear diva moments.

:confused:

Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

Rugby Saint II 06-19-2022 12:09 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953806)
Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

Apparently not...

Rugby Saint II 06-19-2022 12:31 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 953799)
While there isn't a lot of coverage on the Saints nationally, players turned analysts like Marcus Spears and Dan Orlovsky have been pretty consistent this offseason saying watch out for the Saints in the NFC.

National media drives eyeballs and clicks by questioning what they see. The question they ask about the Saints is whether or not Winston is the Winston from Tampa Bay 3 years ago, the Winston in the first 7 games of last year, or possibly something else. What the media is consistent about is that they will question, and question, and question until you actually deliver. And then they will start questioning again right after that.

You could see this in the past few weeks and this week with the NBA. The drumbeat question was "Will Steph Curry be considered an all time great if he wins a 4th championship and finally wins the Finals MVP?" this question was asked each and every day. It comes to pass on Thursday. The question on Friday?: "Can the Warriors repeat as champions and can Curry win another MVP?"

It's just how their producers operate. Frankly, it gets old after a while. But it is the reason the questions in the NFC are always "Can Dak and the Cowboys...?" "Can Arod and Green Bay...?" "Can Brady do it again?" "Can Philly climb the mountain again?"

The Saints used to be on that list with Brees because of the 2009 SB Win. But Winston is promise unfulfilled with the nation media. So, they will continue to question until that question is answered.

It's always best to just ignore it. I generally just treat it as background noise in the mornings...

SFIAH

After we surprise everybody this year by going deep in the playoffs the questions will be:


:Michael Thomas is getting up there in age. How long can he keep this up?

:Can DA reproduce this "lucky season"? Will he be able to motivate the team with over a year since Payton retired?

:Will they be able to get under the cap?

:Will they be able to re-sign all their free agents again?

:Can Olave repeat his numbers or will there be a sophomore slump? Rinse and repeat the question for all the rookies.

:Can Winston keep up his spectacular play? Will his knee still bother him this year? Was it just a fluke year? Will the Saints re-sign him? Will he stay motivated if he signs a contract? Yada yada yada.

:Will Landry and the Honey Badger be back? if not, where will they go?(change the subject)

:Will Cam Jordan retire? Why not? He's obviously on the decline.

:Will the Saints keep their core team together?

:Who will replace the assistant coaches who took promotions elsewhere after a great season?

:Will ________________(insert stupid question here)?

Rinse and repeat ad nauseum.......

BakoSaint 06-19-2022 03:11 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
I didnt hate cameron meredith when we moved on i just doubted his ability to contribute due to the slow progress of his rehab.

SmashMouth 06-19-2022 07:19 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953804)
I’m not doubting it is him. I am wondering why he isn’t posting videos that remove the doubt.

At this point I’ve seen as much verifiable footage of Bigfoot as I have of Michael Thomas working out and being ready to play.

I wonder if Bigfoot likes Popeyes Sammiches like Peat does...

The Dude 06-19-2022 11:14 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
I hope he can get back healthy and show a little more maturity and gets back on the field just as dominant as he was. Unfortunately I think he’s the kind of player that will need a change of scenery before he gets to that point.

saintsfan1976 06-20-2022 08:01 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Show me on the field.

Rugby Saint II 06-20-2022 10:55 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 953817)
I hope he can get back healthy and show a little more maturity and gets back on the field just as dominant as he was. Unfortunately I think he’s the kind of player that will need a change of scenery before he gets to that point.

That's what I'm thinking too. On the bright side....I won't miss him like most good players who leave here. If he turns it around. Great! If not. Buh bye!

AsylumGuido 06-20-2022 10:58 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953806)
Are you not even reading other user’s posts (not surprising)? Users are giving clear examples.

I'm now reading posts. Been busy running an estate sale for the past week for my 95 year old mother-in-law.

I'm seeing clear examples of why people have formed the opinion that they don't like him. Mainly his reaction, like many others, to Drew's baited statement about kneeling during the anthem and his decision to trust his personal sources to wait before going down the surgery path. Add to that his supposedly ignoring attempts to contact him. Those are all perfectly viable reason to dislike him, I suppose. But, none of those are what I would classify as "diva" behavior. A diva is defined as someone who is temperamental and hard to please. A diva will go to the press to complain about touches for example. Antonio Brown is a diva. It's all about him and he let's everyone know that. Michael Thomas is never out there spouting off or complaining.

Once again, I understand why some of you dislike him, but I just haven't seen that claimed "diva" tag being accurate.

AsylumGuido 06-20-2022 11:05 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953804)
I’m not doubting it is him. I am wondering why he isn’t posting videos that remove the doubt.

At this point I’ve seen as much verifiable footage of Bigfoot as I have of Michael Thomas working out and being ready to play.

Thomas most likely isn't out there posting numerous videos like Winston's management team because that has never been his style. He's never really been that sort on social media. Much more subdued and cryptic. The two recent video have been posted by someone other than himself. The video from the opening post appears to be a basic video showing his footwork. There's no reason to show his whole body unless it was to self promote like Winston's management team has been doing.

AsylumGuido 06-20-2022 11:45 AM

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JKool 06-20-2022 02:45 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 953580)
Where've you been?

Oh, I have been lurking. I think we're going to have a good year this year, so I thought I would say hi. :)

SmashMouth 06-20-2022 05:11 PM

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AsylumGuido 06-20-2022 05:14 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953832)

Wow!

SmashMouth 06-20-2022 05:18 PM

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gulfgambler 06-20-2022 08:35 PM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
He got his big ass contract
He knows hit can't live up to it w/o #9 hitting him in the face mask
or the sideline back shoulder

SmashMouth 06-20-2022 10:26 PM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

cmike 06-21-2022 04:55 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953804)
I’m not doubting it is him. I am wondering why he isn’t posting videos that remove the doubt.

At this point I’ve seen as much verifiable footage of Bigfoot as I have of Michael Thomas working out and being ready to play.

I’m just curious what stylist and hair products he’s been using. The last time we saw MT on the field he was just starting his twists. Now fast forward a little over a year later and he posts this video with dreadlocks past his mid back. By comparison, AK has been growing his dreads since he was a senior in high school. The person(MT) in the video has hair a bit longer than AK’s.
Just saying.

subguy 06-21-2022 06:00 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953823)
I'm now reading posts. Been busy running an estate sale for the past week for my 95 year old mother-in-law.

I'm seeing clear examples of why people have formed the opinion that they don't like him. Mainly his reaction, like many others, to Drew's baited statement about kneeling during the anthem and his decision to trust his personal sources to wait before going down the surgery path. Add to that his supposedly ignoring attempts to contact him. Those are all perfectly viable reason to dislike him, I suppose. But, none of those are what I would classify as "diva" behavior. A diva is defined as someone who is temperamental and hard to please. A diva will go to the press to complain about touches for example. Antonio Brown is a diva. It's all about him and he let's everyone know that. Michael Thomas is never out there spouting off or complaining.

Once again, I understand why some of you dislike him, but I just haven't seen that claimed "diva" tag being accurate.

Symantec's game, and your definition of DIVA.

Wasn't he holed up in an apartment in LA and then sued the landlord for something ridiculous? Just another example of DIVA behavior.

Again, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I am the only one that has mentioned the Brees factor. It is obvious their timing was critical when he made the brief return and caught 0 passes.

I forgot about his disrespect towards Drew, kind of like biting the hand that feeds. This was not a main reason for anything as you seem to think, I forgot all about it until you mentioned it.

These two were clutch together time and time again. That was then, this was now. Time will tell if he can connect with Winston or Dalton, two totally different styles of QB's from Brees.

subguy 06-21-2022 06:36 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 953795)
We need him back and healthy. The two reasons he was ever upset in the first place are gone and he seems to be in a far better head space because of it. I just wanna win a Super Bowl and I don’t believe we can do it this year without him.

It is a team sport, so yes, if he plays and we win a Superbowl, he would be a contributor.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2022 06:51 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 953852)
I’m just curious what stylist and hair products he’s been using. The last time we saw MT on the field he was just starting his twists. Now fast forward a little over a year later and he posts this video with dreadlocks past his mid back. By comparison, AK has been growing his dreads since he was a senior in high school. The person(MT) in the video has hair a bit longer than AK’s.
Just saying.

LOL! Check the video again, mike. That black you are seeing over his shoulders isn't dreadlocks. That is clearly a weight vest commonly used for conditioning and endurance. Google them.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2022 06:59 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by subguy (Post 953853)
Symantec's game, and your definition of DIVA.

Wasn't he holed up in an apartment in LA and then sued the landlord for something ridiculous? Just another example of DIVA behavior.

Again, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I am the only one that has mentioned the Brees factor. It is obvious their timing was critical when he made the brief return and caught 0 passes.

I forgot about his disrespect towards Drew, kind of like biting the hand that feeds. This was not a main reason for anything as you seem to think, I forgot all about it until you mentioned it.

These two were clutch together time and time again. That was then, this was now. Time will tell if he can connect with Winston or Dalton, two totally different styles of QB's from Brees.

Injured NFL star Michael Thomas sues landlord over $60K recovery rental

It was a condominium and it "had malfunctions relating to the pool, garage doors and kitchen appliances." He had rented it to have space and privacy for his rehab work.

The article also says, "On top of that, the landlord’s unnamed representative allegedly repeatedly showed up unannounced, which is illegal in the state of California."

How is that a diva attitude? Wouldn't you consider suing the landlord if he refused to give you a refund, as well. I know I would.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2022 07:16 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The writer is proposing that the Steelers should offer a 2023 6th round pick for Roby.


AsylumGuido 06-21-2022 07:21 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Boston Saint 06-21-2022 07:31 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953856)
Injured NFL star Michael Thomas sues landlord over $60K recovery rental

It was a condominium and it "had malfunctions relating to the pool, garage doors and kitchen appliances." He had rented it to have space and privacy for his rehab work.

The article also says, "On top of that, the landlord’s unnamed representative allegedly repeatedly showed up unannounced, which is illegal in the state of California."

How is that a diva attitude? Wouldn't you consider suing the landlord if he refused to give you a refund, as well. I know I would.

Defending Thomas you sound like a teenager who keeps getting into trouble and blaming others. It’s always someone else’s fault and never his responsibility. Suspended for fighting? “Not my fault!” Didn’t keep in contact with your boss? “Not my fault!” Problems with your rehab after ghosting training staff? “Not my fault!” Twitter spat with a choir boy future HOF teammate? “Not my fault!” Legal issues involving a rental property you only needed to rent because you ignored your training staff? “Not my fault!” It’s never your fault…”everyone just hates me!”.

We get it; you’ve got your nose so far up his rear you wouldn’t care if he walked into your home and peed in your oatmeal. Now go ahead and label me a hater because I (and others) don’t think this is the way your highest paid player should carry himself. I’ll take Winston’s attitude over Thomas’s any day.

AsylumGuido 06-21-2022 07:50 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953859)
Defending Thomas you sound like a teenager who keeps getting into trouble and blaming others. It’s always someone else’s fault and never his responsibility. Suspended for fighting? “Not my fault!” Didn’t keep in contact with your boss? “Not my fault!” Problems with your rehab after ghosting training staff? “Not my fault!” Twitter spat with a choir boy future HOF teammate? “Not my fault!” Legal issues involving a rental property you only needed to rent because you ignored your training staff? “Not my fault!” It’s never your fault…”everyone just hates me!”.

We get it; you’ve got your nose so far up his rear you wouldn’t care if he walked into your home and peed in your oatmeal. Now go ahead and label me a hater because I (and others) don’t think this is the way your highest paid player should carry himself. I’ll take Winston’s attitude over Thomas’s any day.

You really truly dislike Mr. Thomas. You have made that fact perfectly clear. Personally, I look for reasons to like people rather than reasons to hate them. To each his own. :chug:

subguy 06-21-2022 07:52 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
double post

subguy 06-21-2022 07:52 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 953859)
Defending Thomas you sound like a teenager who keeps getting into trouble and blaming others. It’s always someone else’s fault and never his responsibility. Suspended for fighting? “Not my fault!” Didn’t keep in contact with your boss? “Not my fault!” Problems with your rehab after ghosting training staff? “Not my fault!” Twitter spat with a choir boy future HOF teammate? “Not my fault!” Legal issues involving a rental property you only needed to rent because you ignored your training staff? “Not my fault!” It’s never your fault…”everyone just hates me!”.

We get it; you’ve got your nose so far up his rear you wouldn’t care if he walked into your home and peed in your oatmeal. Now go ahead and label me a hater because I (and others) don’t think this is the way your highest paid player should carry himself. I’ll take Winston’s attitude over Thomas’s any day.

Now you know why I have been on here since 2002 and only have 1700 posts, not worth the energy

WW_Who_Dat 06-21-2022 08:30 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Defend him … Don’t defend him … whatever.

In the end nothing matters but the product he brings to the team and the playing field. If he is 85% of his former self … great, welcome back. If he is anything less and has anything but team first attitude … move on.

Making it or not making to day 1 of training camp will be the first real tangible evidence we fans have of his actual recovery progress.

SmashMouth 06-21-2022 08:36 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subguy (Post 953862)
Now you know why I have been on here since 2002 and only have 1700 posts, not worth the energy

Fans will have diverse viewpoints, whether the team wins or not. We've fortunate of late to win more than not. In the age of new fat contracts, many will say overly fat contracts, it's accelerated the divergent discourses as fans love their team(s). Nonetheless it's the discussions of those teams that we follow and love, many of which we've had with our own friends and family outside of this cool little forum, that foster new ideas and many times new friendships in cool little forums like these. We're all considered family here. Nurturing our friendships here is worth the effort.

I recently moved back to Louisiana. I planned on hosting activities for BnG I thought in time for this year's draft. 2020 and its consequences have been challenge for everybody. Next year I'll begin. And we can nurture our camaraderie with a BnG Draft event. :bng:

Rugby Saint II 06-21-2022 08:41 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953864)
Fans will have diverse viewpoints, whether the team wins or not. We've fortunate of late to win more than not. In the age of new fat contracts, many will say overly fat contracts, it's accelerated the divergent discourses as fans love their team(s). Nonetheless it's the discussions of those teams that we follow and love, many of which we've had with our own friends and family outside of this cool little forum, that foster new ideas and many times new friendships in coo little forums like these. We're all considered family here. Nurturing our friendships here is worth the effort.

I recently moved back to Louisiana. I planned on hosting activities for BnG I thought in time for this year's draft. 2020 and its consequences have been challenge for everybody. Next year I'll begin. And we can nurture our camaraderie with a BnG Draft event. :bng:

Make sure you post about it next year. I think it sounds like fun. Do you want to meet up at training camp this year? My twin brother and I will be in town along with a couple of other BNG members who are meeting up with us.

SmashMouth 06-21-2022 08:42 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953857)
The writer is proposing that the Steelers should offer a 2023 6th round pick for Roby.

https://twitter.com/SaintsCSC/status...16809529954304

If his cap is so little, I doubt the Saints trade him. We have depth to spare in a secondary which may turn out to be the best in Saints history. Besides, recent history has shown the fragility of health of DBs throughout a season, a season now at 17 games, NFL games that feature now more of a pass heavy offenses to defend with more DBs.

SmashMouth 06-21-2022 08:43 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 953866)
Make sure you post about it next year. I think it sounds like fun. Do you want to meet up at training camp this year? My twin brother and I will be in town along with a couple of other BNG members who are meeting up with us.

Yes, of course. Please update your meetup thread. I'll sticky it. :bng:

Rugby Saint II 06-21-2022 08:49 AM

Re: 2022 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953867)
If his cap is so little, I doubt the Saints trade him. We have depth to spare in a secondary which may turn out to be the best in Saints history. Besides, recent history has shown the fragility of health of DBs throughout a season, a season now at 17 games, NFL games that feature now more of a pass heavy offenses to defend with more DBs.

Not only that it was suggested we trade him for a sixth round draft pick. If we hold onto what we have, the trade for Roby might even be a third round from a team in the same position that we were last year.

Boston Saint 06-21-2022 09:00 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 953860)
You really truly dislike Mr. Thomas. You have made that fact perfectly clear. Personally, I look for reasons to like people rather than reasons to hate them. To each his own. :chug:

And you are completely 100% wrong. I can separate if I approve of someone’s actions from weather or not I dislike the person. I do it frequently with my daughter. I can be unhappy if she doesn’t study or acts rudely or avoids a chore. But guess what….I still love her and wish her no ill will. YOU are apparently incapable of understanding such distinction. It’s why you put labels like “hater” on people. As a person who claims to have faith in God I would think you would understand that.

iceshack149 06-21-2022 10:51 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subguy (Post 953862)
Now you know why I have been on here since 2002 and only have 1700 posts, not worth the energy

We've lost some quality posters over the last few years. :brood:

K Major 06-21-2022 10:57 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953868)
Yes, of course. Please update your meetup thread. I'll sticky it. :bng:

Smash,

Kind of off topic but do you plan to visit Europe this year?

SmashMouth 06-21-2022 11:06 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 953886)
Smash,

Kind of off topic but do you plan to visit Europe this year?

Maybe...even though my Dad is gone and there is no reason to go back for distant family in France. My wife wants to go back to Greece. I kinda want to hit the east coast of Greece and go into Croatia and also do the islands there. First we'll be going to Costa Rica where she has a sister.

Are you planning a trip?

K Major 06-21-2022 11:49 AM

Re: Michael Thomas Progress
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 953887)
Maybe...even though my Dad is gone and there is no reason to go back for distant family in France. My wife wants to go back to Greece. I kinda want to hit the east coast of Greece and go into Croatia and also do the islands there. First we'll be going to Costa Rica where she has a sister.

Are you planning a trip?

Very nice.

We'll probably go back down to Puerto Rico (Dorado) around Christmas time.

My daughter will be a high school senior in 2023 & the school has a trip to Spain scheduled. Momma, Daddy & her brother can't wait to tag along for that one :p

I'm a big time MotoGP enthusiast so hopefully I'll get a chance to attend one of the races (either Sachsenring or Barcelona) while visiting.


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