I apologize to you personally, jonny. I have tried my best for the last two months to avoid any confrontation with saintfan and others. I placed him on my ignore list to hopefully bring any back and forth to an end for good, but whenever I post anything I see a hidden post by him.

Two wrongs don't make a right Sainstfan. The stuff you are crusading for and calling Guido out for are exactly what you are doing in return. How does that make any sense?

In the end, you look like just as much of a douche for it. I have nothing against either of you, just doesn't make sense to keep it going. Point has been proven, now be the bigger man you claim to be.

I get the premise of what's going on here, but this back and forth, from 2 Members that I'd rather not set to Ignore, is getting real tiresome now.

There's something to be said for not stooping to a troublemakers level, its getting extremely childish.

I visit this forum to read interesting articles, news and discuss with other fans. I deleted Twitter due to the toxic people masked as Saints fan with an alternative agenda of attacking each other. Its sad to see a place I enjoy coming to daily, turning into what Saints Twitter became.

I'm close to taking a few months away from this site now, which is a shame because 98% of us get on day to day.

I blocked saintsfan some time ago because of this incessant crap! Now I have to see posters quoting him and asking for him politely to "Let It Go". Unfortunately, he would rather run everybody off rather than stopping his aggressive agenda against other members. I spend less and less time on here because of this nonstop discourse which is a huge downer for people who don't enjoy arguing.

I hope that Halo knows that the bng harmony is struggling because of this heavy discourse on the board. On the bright side, if saintsfan runs everybody off then Guido will quit posting and he can have the place all to himself.

Did you block speedo while he was relentlessly harassing other members? Tell the board about it? Step in to defend any of people he attacked? Tasked with keeping the peace here? Read every post in every thread? Tried sending speedo PMs asking him to stop? React at all to the race baiting?

No?

Well then, perhaps you should just keep on doing what you're doing and leave the rest to me...Thanks in advance...

Guido's insufferable autofellatio comes in two distinct flavors. Blind optimism or sound bites from others and neither are conducive to an objective exchange of ideas. He does however, quite often, deliver other people's thoughts and clear up the grayness of some topics.

Guido - You are an idealist and I have found it very difficult to have a qualitative objective discussion with idealists. They tend to believe they are an authority on topics and the discussion is either a vehement agreement or disagreement, neither of which are appealing to people that enjoy throwing ideas around. You may want to start your own blog that might suit your style much better.

As far as Saintsfan, his crusade to open Guido's eyes can be a bit like that mosquito buzz in your ear we are all so familiar with but that is intentional and not his general M.O.. It never ends well for the mosquito, quite often leads to Google searches on 'how to build a flamethrower'.

Saintsfan - "Highroad" is all that I can say. Your efforts have been recognized but there is just no ground to be made.

As for me... I got lost a few years ago and it took some hard words from Papz, and three deaths in my close family inside of 6 weeks to open my eyes to what I genuinely value and what the person I want to be looks like. I know you are reading my opening line and asking 'WF you going on about'? LOL Well, we all have our nature don't we? I recognize that I can be caustic but try to turn it into something constructive... I find that caustic is an idea but if a little thought is applied it can be transformed into something useful.

A few terms to ponder.

Intellect - The faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively. (We all like to think we are intelligent don't we? Prove it)
Objectivity - Free from bias. (You can be a fanatic and still have objective discussion)
Conversation - A talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged. (Do I need to provide the definition of 'exchange' or can we figure it out?)

To Johnny... Good on ya for this thread.

I will take that to heart, Oak. I am trying.