Holy F**** S*!!!!!!!!!!!!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-06-2022, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Answer: Speedo stops race-baiting and stops attacking people. Sadly little speedo is still in denial mode. Still refuses to admit what he's done and clearly has no plans to stop on his own. So I'm his target. I'm his nemesis. I'm the diversion that stops him from running people away. I'm the one he can attack - I'm the one he can use to try to divide the board.

Ignoring NPD works fine unless you have to see them every day. In that case you have to draw a line in the sand and defend it to hell and back, and that is the only way.

I and others have tried ignoring him and his behavior has become increasingly worse because he is empowered in his disorder. As a moderator I have been approached by people who are tired of having this disordered man berate their every comment. Tired of him reporting their posts as the victim when he's the instigator. As a moderator I left him alone literally for years hoping that he, like some before him, just washed out and went away.

He's NOT going to use the board to feed his disorder anymore. Sure I can ignore him. I would like to suggest that if you're the one seeing all the reports he's made against others here - if you're the one getting PMd by people who want to know what gives, if you're that guy what would YOU do?

It's necessary. If speedo cared at all about this board he'd effing stop. Everybody here knows what he does. Therefore everyone here should take a stand and put a stop to this madness.

I'm not trying to make speedo a better person. That ship sailed, probably about the time he turned 4. I AM going to stop him from his attacking and race baiting. When is the last time you saw him do what is on display in this very thread to anyone other than me?

You're welcome.

I'm still confused. Stopping someone with NPD seems to be equivalent to trying to stop the virus. Since they are disordered, are they simply not capable of controlling that behavior?

Is your goal to simply make yourself the target of attack so that attacks go nowhere else?

Also as a moderator, why not use moderation as a tool to control acceptable behavior?

I understand what you want to accomplish. It just seems to me that this is the most annoying and roundabout way of trying to pull it off.

This just seems like a tactic to me where the supposed cure is worse that the supposed disease. It has folks like the OP exploding in anger over the situation. I asked the same about 10 days ago. I just don't see the point where it ticks off the masses with no other real movement.

Right or wrong, Guido is who he is. And I'm taking your word about the cause and the fact that behavior is difficult to curtail.

I'd just like to point out as a moderator, your current approach isn't very moderate. And it's clear it's going to have quite a few unintended effects if it continues in its current form.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-06-2022, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I would like to suggest that if you're the one seeing all the reports he's made against others here - if you're the one getting PMd by people who want to know what gives, if you're that guy what would YOU do?

I wanted to take this one on separately. Personally, I would ignore it. However, I understand that I have the personality to not allow for writings from anonymous internet people to affect me, while others may not.

Being a moderator is a tough job. I do appreciate the work that you and the other moderators of this forum do on our behalf. I would not wish that job on my worst enemy.

But in the interest of trying to find an alternative solution, let me propose a couple of suggestions.

1. Moderate offensive posts. Moderators already do this anyway. If there's a post that off topic, or a personal attack, replace it with "Moderated due to personal attack" and remove the original content.

2. See if it's possible to turn off the PM system on individual users so that such attacks cannot be delivered via PM.

3. Explain to the offending user that these measures will be employed for a specific amount of time. If no moderation occurs in that timeframe, then loosen the reigns.

None of these really try to change the behavior of offending users. Or personally attacks them. Instead it just applies consequences for actions in such a way that continued poor behavior cannot reach the target while making it clear to the rest of the board that offensive/personal attacks will not be posted via the board.

I do not want the moderator job. So, please do not ask. But at least this is a potential end game that the rest of us can live with.

Hope this helps,

SFIAH

saintfan · 02-06-2022, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I wanted to take this one on separately. Personally, I would ignore it. However, I understand that I have the personality to not allow for writings from anonymous internet people to affect me, while others may not.

Being a moderator is a tough job. I do appreciate the work that you and the other moderators of this forum do on our behalf. I would not wish that job on my worst enemy.

But in the interest of trying to find an alternative solution, let me propose a couple of suggestions.

1. Moderate offensive posts. Moderators already do this anyway. If there's a post that off topic, or a personal attack, replace it with "Moderated due to personal attack" and remove the original content.

2. See if it's possible to turn off the PM system on individual users so that such attacks cannot be delivered via PM.

3. Explain to the offending user that these measures will be employed for a specific amount of time. If no moderation occurs in that timeframe, then loosen the reigns.

None of these really try to change the behavior of offending users. Or personally attacks them. Instead it just applies consequences for actions in such a way that continued poor behavior cannot reach the target while making it clear to the rest of the board that offensive/personal attacks will not be posted via the board.

I do not want the moderator job. So, please do not ask. But at least this is a potential end game that the rest of us can live with.

Hope this helps,

SFIAH

1. Tried that
2. Out of my control
3. Tried that

This is not a recent thing. This has been going on for YEARS with this little man. YEARS. And he gets worse over time. One post of support fuels him further. Watch him try to make friends with anyone who defends him IMMEDIATELY. Years in the making.

You have seen with your own eyes in this thread people posting examples of his attacks and race baiting. I ask you to trust that there are many many more such examples. You have seen with your own eyes his faux 'apology' wherein he does nothing but make excuses so that he can defend his own behavior.

Again I will ask you to understand this is not recent. Reason has been attempted many times...over years...and still he will not relent. Speedo is always going to be NPD. There are no pills for it, and the disorder is to deny the disorder. Years and years of therapy and then it's still a crap shoot. So we ignore if we can, and we push the disorder at its core when that fails - not individually but for the common good. In time, the disordered individual moves on because he can no longer feed his ego in the current environment. Speedo is hard core. He's broke but bad. It's going to take a while. Even in the face of those who have 'supported' and 'defended' him here - the very people who also acknowledge, at a minimum, that he rubs folks the wrong way, even with THAT staring him dead in the face in a thread devoted to nothing more than this situation:

TODAY this man (a) posted someone else's material on this board and failed to provide a link and (b) only after I flagged him for it did he link to it and (c)
he immediately made excuses then (d) claimed he was being harassed and (e) tried to imply this his behavior was perfectly legal. Rules mean nothing to NPD. Victim mode, today as any other. It's a simple rule - to link back, but speedo can't give that credit to the creator. He has no real opinion or knowledge to share, so he steals it, even when he does link back. That hit home with him and he reacted...in a typically NPD way.

Dude is sick sir. Again I fully understand this is disruptive, and I harbor no ill will to anyone who chooses to ignore me through this course of action. I knew it going in - that people would be disrupted and frustrated with me. In the end I say again, the ONLY person you've seen him attack in weeks is me, because I'm bringing his NPD behavior directly to his front door, every day - every post. So, he's uber-nice to everyone else and tries to make this about me against him...tries to make it personal. That's what NPD does. He has not yet come to understand I do not mind being the villain as he perceives it. I don't have that kind of ego.

People have a right to post here without being attacked for their opinions.
Race baiting is dangerous. Speedo is public enemy #1 on both counts. Trust in the process. It's already working. Try to have a laugh. I'm trying to keep it funny. It's the least I can do...

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-06-2022, 10:20 PM

OK. I will now take my leave of the situation. I hope that it gets resolved.

SFIAH

vpheughan · 02-07-2022, 03:50 PM

Do not correct a FOOL, for he will hate you.
Correct a wise man and he will appreciate you.

jonnyrotten · 02-17-2022, 02:22 PM

Was hoping I could come back and see that the childish behaviors has ceased... guess that was too much to ask for.

F it. I'm out. Good job f'ing up the board for folks like me with this absurdity. You win.

Someone email me when these two twats are done so i can come back.

Selfish A holes. You should both be ashamed of yourselves Guido and Saintsfan.

saintfan · 02-17-2022, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Was hoping I could come back and see that the childish behaviors has ceased... guess that was too much to ask for.

F it. I'm out. Good job f'ing up the board for folks like me with this absurdity. You win.

Someone email me when these two twats are done so i can come back.

Selfish A holes. You should both be ashamed of yourselves Guido and Saintsfan.

No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends.

jonnyrotten · 02-17-2022, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends.

Two wrongs don't make a right Sainstfan. The stuff you are crusading for and calling Guido out for are exactly what you are doing in return. How does that make any sense?

In the end, you look like just as much of a douche for it. I have nothing against either of you, just doesn't make sense to keep it going. Point has been proven, now be the bigger man you claim to be.

AsylumGuido · 02-17-2022, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Two wrongs don't make a right Sainstfan. The stuff you are crusading for and calling Guido out for are exactly what you are doing in return. How does that make any sense?

In the end, you look like just as much of a douche for it. I have nothing against either of you, just doesn't make sense to keep it going. Point has been proven, now be the bigger man you claim to be.

I apologize to you personally, jonny. I have tried my best for the last two months to avoid any confrontation with saintfan and others. I placed him on my ignore list to hopefully bring any back and forth to an end for good, but whenever I post anything I see a hidden post by him.

jeanpierre · 02-17-2022, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends.

02-06-2022, 09:34 PM	#41
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by saintfan Answer: Speedo stops race-baiting and stops attacking people. Sadly little speedo is still in denial mode. Still refuses to admit what he's done and clearly has no plans to stop on his own. So I'm his target. I'm his nemesis. I'm the diversion that stops him from running people away. I'm the one he can attack - I'm the one he can use to try to divide the board. Ignoring NPD works fine unless you have to see them every day. In that case you have to draw a line in the sand and defend it to hell and back, and that is the only way. I and others have tried ignoring him and his behavior has become increasingly worse because he is empowered in his disorder. As a moderator I have been approached by people who are tired of having this disordered man berate their every comment. Tired of him reporting their posts as the victim when he's the instigator. As a moderator I left him alone literally for years hoping that he, like some before him, just washed out and went away. He's NOT going to use the board to feed his disorder anymore. Sure I can ignore him. I would like to suggest that if you're the one seeing all the reports he's made against others here - if you're the one getting PMd by people who want to know what gives, if you're that guy what would YOU do? It's necessary. If speedo cared at all about this board he'd effing stop. Everybody here knows what he does. Therefore everyone here should take a stand and put a stop to this madness. I'm not trying to make speedo a better person. That ship sailed, probably about the time he turned 4. I AM going to stop him from his attacking and race baiting. When is the last time you saw him do what is on display in this very thread to anyone other than me? You're welcome. I'm still confused. Stopping someone with NPD seems to be equivalent to trying to stop the virus. Since they are disordered, are they simply not capable of controlling that behavior? Is your goal to simply make yourself the target of attack so that attacks go nowhere else? Also as a moderator, why not use moderation as a tool to control acceptable behavior? I understand what you want to accomplish. It just seems to me that this is the most annoying and roundabout way of trying to pull it off. This just seems like a tactic to me where the supposed cure is worse that the supposed disease. It has folks like the OP exploding in anger over the situation. I asked the same about 10 days ago. I just don't see the point where it ticks off the masses with no other real movement. Right or wrong, Guido is who he is. And I'm taking your word about the cause and the fact that behavior is difficult to curtail. I'd just like to point out as a moderator, your current approach isn't very moderate. And it's clear it's going to have quite a few unintended effects if it continues in its current form. SFIAH jonnyrotten, Crusader, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.
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02-06-2022, 09:51 PM	#42
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by saintfan I would like to suggest that if you're the one seeing all the reports he's made against others here - if you're the one getting PMd by people who want to know what gives, if you're that guy what would YOU do? I wanted to take this one on separately. Personally, I would ignore it. However, I understand that I have the personality to not allow for writings from anonymous internet people to affect me, while others may not. Being a moderator is a tough job. I do appreciate the work that you and the other moderators of this forum do on our behalf. I would not wish that job on my worst enemy. But in the interest of trying to find an alternative solution, let me propose a couple of suggestions. 1. Moderate offensive posts. Moderators already do this anyway. If there's a post that off topic, or a personal attack, replace it with "Moderated due to personal attack" and remove the original content. 2. See if it's possible to turn off the PM system on individual users so that such attacks cannot be delivered via PM. 3. Explain to the offending user that these measures will be employed for a specific amount of time. If no moderation occurs in that timeframe, then loosen the reigns. None of these really try to change the behavior of offending users. Or personally attacks them. Instead it just applies consequences for actions in such a way that continued poor behavior cannot reach the target while making it clear to the rest of the board that offensive/personal attacks will not be posted via the board. I do not want the moderator job. So, please do not ask. But at least this is a potential end game that the rest of us can live with. Hope this helps, SFIAH jonnyrotten and Rugby Saint II like this.
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02-06-2022, 10:07 PM	#43
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I wanted to take this one on separately. Personally, I would ignore it. However, I understand that I have the personality to not allow for writings from anonymous internet people to affect me, while others may not. Being a moderator is a tough job. I do appreciate the work that you and the other moderators of this forum do on our behalf. I would not wish that job on my worst enemy. But in the interest of trying to find an alternative solution, let me propose a couple of suggestions. 1. Moderate offensive posts. Moderators already do this anyway. If there's a post that off topic, or a personal attack, replace it with "Moderated due to personal attack" and remove the original content. 2. See if it's possible to turn off the PM system on individual users so that such attacks cannot be delivered via PM. 3. Explain to the offending user that these measures will be employed for a specific amount of time. If no moderation occurs in that timeframe, then loosen the reigns. None of these really try to change the behavior of offending users. Or personally attacks them. Instead it just applies consequences for actions in such a way that continued poor behavior cannot reach the target while making it clear to the rest of the board that offensive/personal attacks will not be posted via the board. I do not want the moderator job. So, please do not ask. But at least this is a potential end game that the rest of us can live with. Hope this helps, SFIAH 1. Tried that 2. Out of my control 3. Tried that This is not a recent thing. This has been going on for YEARS with this little man. YEARS. And he gets worse over time. One post of support fuels him further. Watch him try to make friends with anyone who defends him IMMEDIATELY. Years in the making. You have seen with your own eyes in this thread people posting examples of his attacks and race baiting. I ask you to trust that there are many many more such examples. You have seen with your own eyes his faux 'apology' wherein he does nothing but make excuses so that he can defend his own behavior. Again I will ask you to understand this is not recent. Reason has been attempted many times...over years...and still he will not relent. Speedo is always going to be NPD. There are no pills for it, and the disorder is to deny the disorder. Years and years of therapy and then it's still a crap shoot. So we ignore if we can, and we push the disorder at its core when that fails - not individually but for the common good. In time, the disordered individual moves on because he can no longer feed his ego in the current environment. Speedo is hard core. He's broke but bad. It's going to take a while. Even in the face of those who have 'supported' and 'defended' him here - the very people who also acknowledge, at a minimum, that he rubs folks the wrong way, even with THAT staring him dead in the face in a thread devoted to nothing more than this situation: TODAY this man (a) posted someone else's material on this board and failed to provide a link and (b) only after I flagged him for it did he link to it and (c) he immediately made excuses then (d) claimed he was being harassed and (e) tried to imply this his behavior was perfectly legal. Rules mean nothing to NPD. Victim mode, today as any other. It's a simple rule - to link back, but speedo can't give that credit to the creator. He has no real opinion or knowledge to share, so he steals it, even when he does link back. That hit home with him and he reacted...in a typically NPD way. Dude is sick sir. Again I fully understand this is disruptive, and I harbor no ill will to anyone who chooses to ignore me through this course of action. I knew it going in - that people would be disrupted and frustrated with me. In the end I say again, the ONLY person you've seen him attack in weeks is me, because I'm bringing his NPD behavior directly to his front door, every day - every post. So, he's uber-nice to everyone else and tries to make this about me against him...tries to make it personal. That's what NPD does. He has not yet come to understand I do not mind being the villain as he perceives it. I don't have that kind of ego. People have a right to post here without being attacked for their opinions. Race baiting is dangerous. Speedo is public enemy #1 on both counts. Trust in the process. It's already working. Try to have a laugh. I'm trying to keep it funny. It's the least I can do... jeanpierre and K Major like this.
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02-06-2022, 10:20 PM	#44
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* OK. I will now take my leave of the situation. I hope that it gets resolved. SFIAH

02-07-2022, 03:50 PM	#45
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02-17-2022, 02:22 PM	#46
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Was hoping I could come back and see that the childish behaviors has ceased... guess that was too much to ask for. F it. I'm out. Good job f'ing up the board for folks like me with this absurdity. You win. Someone email me when these two twats are done so i can come back. Selfish A holes. You should both be ashamed of yourselves Guido and Saintsfan. Crusader, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

02-17-2022, 02:28 PM	#47
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Was hoping I could come back and see that the childish behaviors has ceased... guess that was too much to ask for. F it. I'm out. Good job f'ing up the board for folks like me with this absurdity. You win. Someone email me when these two twats are done so i can come back. Selfish A holes. You should both be ashamed of yourselves Guido and Saintsfan. No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends. jeanpierre, frydaddy and K Major like this.

02-17-2022, 04:18 PM	#48
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by saintfan No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends. Two wrongs don't make a right Sainstfan. The stuff you are crusading for and calling Guido out for are exactly what you are doing in return. How does that make any sense? In the end, you look like just as much of a douche for it. I have nothing against either of you, just doesn't make sense to keep it going. Point has been proven, now be the bigger man you claim to be. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-17-2022, 04:33 PM	#49
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Two wrongs don't make a right Sainstfan. The stuff you are crusading for and calling Guido out for are exactly what you are doing in return. How does that make any sense? In the end, you look like just as much of a douche for it. I have nothing against either of you, just doesn't make sense to keep it going. Point has been proven, now be the bigger man you claim to be. I apologize to you personally, jonny. I have tried my best for the last two months to avoid any confrontation with saintfan and others. I placed him on my ignore list to hopefully bring any back and forth to an end for good, but whenever I post anything I see a hidden post by him.

02-17-2022, 04:45 PM	#50
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Holy F** S!!!!!!!!!!!!* Originally Posted by saintfan No shame here. After a solid month speedo is race baiting in the forum today. It ends when that kind of stuff ends. saintfan and frydaddy like this.

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