Guido's insufferable autofellatio comes in two distinct flavors. Blind optimism or sound bites from others and neither are conducive to an objective exchange of ideas. He does however, quite often, deliver other people's thoughts and clear up the grayness of some topics.

Guido - You are an idealist and I have found it very difficult to have a qualitative objective discussion with idealists. They tend to believe they are an authority on topics and the discussion is either a vehement agreement or disagreement, neither of which are appealing to people that enjoy throwing ideas around. You may want to start your own blog that might suit your style much better.

As far as Saintsfan, his crusade to open Guido's eyes can be a bit like that mosquito buzz in your ear we are all so familiar with but that is intentional and not his general M.O.. It never ends well for the mosquito, quite often leads to Google searches on 'how to build a flamethrower'.

Saintsfan - "Highroad" is all that I can say. Your efforts have been recognized but there is just no ground to be made.

As for me... I got lost a few years ago and it took some hard words from Papz, and three deaths in my close family inside of 6 weeks to open my eyes to what I genuinely value and what the person I want to be looks like. I know you are reading my opening line and asking 'WF you going on about'? LOL Well, we all have our nature don't we? I recognize that I can be caustic but try to turn it into something constructive... I find that caustic is an idea but if a little thought is applied it can be transformed into something useful.

A few terms to ponder.

Intellect - The faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively. (We all like to think we are intelligent don't we? Prove it)
Objectivity - Free from bias. (You can be a fanatic and still have objective discussion)
Conversation - A talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged. (Do I need to provide the definition of 'exchange' or can we figure it out?)

To Johnny... Good on ya for this thread.

Great post and insight Oak. Respect.

I appreciate you taking time to articulate so well what many have not quite been able to put into words.

Hopefully we can all move on with respect for one another's ideas, opinions and viewpoints.

Hopefully we can move on from this trash talk and I can unblock saintfan because I really do think he knows quite a bit of info and I actually want to read it. If he stops this nonsense will some one please let me know so that I can unblock him? Thanks.