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AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 11:18 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-23-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945603)
Wouldn't that cost the Saints upwards of 27+M or so?

I believe if there is any "tag" placed on any Saints player in 2022, it'll be Marcus W. I'm willing to bet the consensus / decision makers on Airline Drive don't want him or his agent to hit the free market next month.

We shall see :bng:.

$28.6 million for 2022 QB tag according to OverTheCap.com.

TheOak 02-23-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945586)
Just curious Oak, you earlier asked for reasons why Winston would want to come back here. Rez and I gave you several. Did you have any thoughts on those ?

As for the scenario you describe I don’t see why Winston would be pissed. He wouldn’t have come back for second time if he had hard feelings. He was clearly awarded the starting job and would certainly have been rewarded with a new contract had he not been cheap shotted by the bucks. I guess I must have missed it if he was upset and said “F New Orleans”.

Sh1t you not. Yes and I’ve typed two responses lol. First one was at home but forgot to hit send before leaving for the office. Second one I was reading to make sure it made sense then the phone rang, mouse got bumped during the call, browser got closed and all was lost lol.


The short of it is yes I understand the ‘close to home aspect’ which is definitely in our favor. On the playbook familiarity I’ll write more later when I have time. I saw your question on Franchise Tag and they can but the problem is cap space and that tag being a one year all in hit. Loomis would have to restructure his azz off if that’s the best use of the tag.

QB Tag is $28.5MM this year

Boston Saint 02-23-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 945611)
Sh1t you not. Yes and I’ve typed two responses lol. First one was at home but forgot to hit send before leaving for the office. Second one I was reading to make sure it made sense then the phone rang, mouse got bumped during the call, browser got closed and all was lost lol.


The short of it is yes I understand the ‘close to home aspect’ which is definitely in our favor. On the playbook familiarity I’ll write more later when I have time. I saw your question on Franchise Tag and they can but the problem is cap space and that tag being a one year all in hit. Loomis would have to restructure his azz off if that’s the best use of the tag.

QB Tag is $28.5MM this year

No, I would not franchise tag either. But it may set a basis for negotiation. Also, don’t you think signing into the NFC south gives you a very good chance to make the playoffs ?

AsylumGuido 02-24-2022 01:27 PM

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Jameis righted a lot of wrongs in short 2021 tenure with Saints

Was it enough for him to come back and lead the team again in 2022?

By Andrew_Bell @andy_b_123 Feb 24, 2022, 8:00am CST

Jameis Winston accomplished a lot during this past season and displayed qualities that show an impressive level of progression and improvement since his Tampa Bay Buccaneers days.

Going 4-2 as a starter before sustaining a season-ending injury in Week 8, Winston showed a lot of the improvements that some people questioned whether or not he was capable of displaying.

A couple seasons after throwing a league-high 30 interceptions, he only threw three in about six and a half games. But more importantly, he only recorded six turnover-worthy plays in that span — compared to 40 in 16 games during the 2019 season, via PFF.

While doing so, he maintained his big play abilities, with 12 big time throws and a 7.1 big time throw percentage, which ranked fourth among 35 qualifying QBs through Week 8.

He also was exploring avenues in efficient ways to utilize his legs outside of the pocket. His previous season high in rush yards was 281, and in just over six games in 2021, he was already at 166 — on 5.2 yards per carry.

He managed this despite a group of playmakers that was severely lacking, to say the least. And most importantly, he was finding ways to win the New Orleans Saints games.

An unrestricted free agent, it is unknown whether or not Winston will return as a Saint next season. And with a huge change in leadership sparked by Sean Payton’s retirement, there’s even more doubt in the air.

But barring a huge upgrade via trade or otherwise, I see no reason why the Saints wouldn’t consider running it back with Jameis. Even if they draft a QB early in the draft, bring him back as a bridge-type QB.

And this is all assuming that Jameis would want to come back to New Orleans next year. But given his happiness with the franchise, the shot at rejuvenation the Saints gave him and how well-received he’s been by teammates, I think I’d bet on him wearing Black and Gold in 2022.

AsylumGuido 02-25-2022 04:17 PM

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I hadn't noticed this, but he's right. Winston is always in Saints gear or Saints colors in all of these rehab videos. Sure doesn't sound like someone who doesn't want to play for the Saints, does it?


saintfan 02-25-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945813)
I hadn't noticed this, but he's right. Winston is always in Saints gear or Saints colors in all of these rehab videos. Sure doesn't sound like someone who doesn't want to play for the Saints, does it?

https://twitter.com/BattleRapBets/st...16242885156865

He's still on the team mr helper... :rolleyes:

K Major 02-25-2022 05:34 PM

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Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Colts go after Winston.

Wentz ain’t it.

The Dude 02-25-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945817)
Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Colts go after Winston.

Wentz ain’t it.

I think he’s going to be a hotter commodity than most people think.
It wouldn’t blow my mind if he went back to Tampa.

Boston Saint 02-25-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 945818)
I think he’s going to be a hotter commodity than most people think.
It wouldn’t blow my mind if he went back to Tampa.

With Arians still as their HC? That would be shocking to me.


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