Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

Own it speedo. ALL of it. Then it can end. Do you care enough about this place to do that?

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

This is, as with the other two times you slandered me by claiming "race baiting" when none was present, just your obsessive behavior on display. You have a serious mental issue, sir. You are running off members left and right. You are likely the most blocked member on the site.

Once again, my mistake for looking at one of your hidden posts.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

Onward we go. The 'evidence' for this behavior (not by me) is just a few threads back:

https://blackandgold.com/saints/101566-holy-f-s.html

And that's just the fallout - not the root cause, so to speak. And I'm 'slandering'? What you mean is libel, but as I have explained to you the ultimate defense against that assessment is the truth, which even when put in front of your face you deny. NPD to the core.

But you're right. I am obsessed with stopping you from doing that here, and I don't care what personal problems you use as an excuse. Go do that crap on twitter. No room for it here.

Again, do you care enough to own it and stop it? Still waiting...

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

I’m pretty sure Guido is referring to Winston’s well-publicized antics in college. Not his race.
Please don’t flag members’ comments as racist without understanding context.
No one wants a place like that.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

I'm firmly in the school of being able to SEE downfield was part of his problem (Thank God for Lasik.) The other part was having a good QB coach. The third part, a system that defined the QB's role...do's and don'ts.

I honestly think this guy will be a STEAL from the FA market if we get him to stay and develop into a team leader. I was happy with what I saw up until the injury and I believe the organization would be foolish to allow him to walk without kicking the tires and seeing what's left to drive the bus!

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

Well said. I also think his issues with indecisiveness or on short passes was
in large part do to Payton drilling into him to not turn the ball over. It seemed to me that was firmly in the back of his mind on most of his drop backs. It was working since his INT totals dropped so much, but it also made him a bit tentative. Another year as the starter in the same system with improved OL and WR play and I think he could easily be a top 10 QB.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

The reason I don't want Jameis Winston as the QB is that I think that this new generation of QB is going to be better than the last generation of QB. I think guys like Tua and Lawrence are eventually going to be really good QBs. You already have guys like Herbert, Burrow, Mahomes. You have some of the older guys in there like Rodgers and Stafford. We're living in an age where it's going to be hard to win a Superbowl without a guy leading your team that is at the very least incredibly proficient. I think Jameis would have been ok 10 years ago, but not now. What stands out to me is the Titans-Bengals game. You have an above average but not great QB on one side and a young prodigy on the otherside who is fearless. The Titans were the best team all year long. You had a close game. Titans have a chance to go down and win the game, Tannehill throws a pick(though you could argue it wasn't his fault). A QB inspires his team though. Burrow made both the offense and defense better for the Bengals just by being who he was. He gets the ball and does what Tannehill couldn't... throws a great sideline pass. Kicker kicks the FG and they go on to the AFC title game. A team that shouldn't even be competitive on paper beats the either the best or second best team in the league on paper. I don't think we can win a Super Bowl anymore with just having a decent QB and a strong defense. You don't even have to have a great offense tbh, but you have to have that guy that every knows they can rely on when the time is ripe. I don't feel like Winston is that. I really really really want Bryce Young. I think the guy is another one of those prodigies coming up... a guy I think will be a better version of Russell Wilson. We need to get our hands on a guy like that somehow otherwise we are going to be stuck going 9-8, 8-9, 10-7, 7-10 for a long time and are going to struggle to win any playoff games we get. This years draft isn't that impressive at the QB position imo. I think we should start accumulating draft stock.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

These comments are no different than his prior comments where he was most certainly, definitely, and absolutely race baiting. His comments were flagged by me because of his history. Everybody here gets a LOT of rope. Speedo finally hanged himself so he gets no quarter.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

Bryce Young can't help us coach.

Who is your Saints QB for 2022? They are still teeing it up in September.

Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option
 

Good points. I’d agree having a young stud QB like the guys you mentioned would be great, but they aren’t available right now. Winston is. Winning a SB might be a long shot for a while. Winning our division next year would be a
good start though. I think they could do that with Winston.