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Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst.

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I'm no fan of such a move, he could probably do it but we have, I would argue, the best RT in the leauge why not let him continue there?

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I believe Payton winning 9 games with last years offense proved HE could win without Brees. Which may have contributed to his "stepping away".

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Ramczyk has to be named an All-Pro at LT and he’ll get $1 million extra. It’s not like the contract says just play LT and you’ll get $5 mil/yr extra. I think he stays at RT and we draft a LT.

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I know some will cringe when I say this, but don't rule out a healthy Peat sliding over to LT if necessary.

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Tumbleweed Peat has SLOW feet and non athletic for tackle.

He’d get a QB killed.

Dougie M will confirm that later at training camp.

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You keep saying that but it is yet to be proven.

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I'll will give him that he has been decent in spot duty a couple of times but Peat is absolutely no longterm solution at the position. He is pretty athletic for a guard but nowhere near that of a LT.

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Modern surgery and rehab techniques are truly amazing. It's not tremendously long ago when knee injuries took atleast a season to get back from if it wasn't career ending.

With the Saints retaining Carmichael I hope we get Winston at QB. He has the highest ceiling of all the QBs we had on this years roster and a higher ceiling than most any QB that will be a FA.

If MT comes back healthy and we can add some more WR talent Winston should have a good shot of being productive.

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His strength is that he can play multiple positions, not that it matters much if he's on the Popeyes Sammich diet.

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I would resign Armstead even at the expense of Williams being let go. I also look hard at LT/G in the draft to replace Armstead if he goes down. I feel the D could spare losing a player but the O really can't at this point. Really good LT just don't fall from trees? Not kissing butt here, but I personally put a great deal of faith when you talk O-line. When healthy Armstead is a stud.

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I think Taysom would be the guy I'd go with because I think he has the higher upside and if he fails we'll just have a great draft spot.

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I believe Ramczyk played LT in high school and college. If I remember correctly we moved him to RT after the draft. He may have had some experience playing RT but he was trained to be a LT. If Armstead hadn't been so good Ram would have been there after he signed his first contract which has incentives built into his contract for playing LT. It is easier to find a good RT than it is LT. I like the idea of a move and apparently so does Ramczyk.

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IF he goes down... LOL Dude averages 11 games played a season.

In my opinion, M Williams is harder to replace.

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Man I could go for a Popeyes Sammich right now.

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It had to be discussed during the contract negotiations as there was language within the contract which gave Ram the chance to earn more as a LT.

Why would such a thing be included if it wasn't a point of contention of sorts?!

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Imagining Peat at LT looks like an elephant on roller skates.

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The elephant moves better.

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Yeah, but Peat eats more.

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The elephant never forgets his assignment. :p

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This I didn't realize.

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He really balled out while being handcuffed by Payton and having no WR’s.

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That he did.

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Because you don't know jack and have to wait for a tweet to have a clue...

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Most of the national media think it's a good move. I question anything the media say even though I Ike him well enough. However, this scares me if only because it's what the pundits want, and we all know they're just idiots looking for clicks. Yes, I said clicks. Read it carefully. :wink:

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Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

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I’ll throw a few out there. One is he and his wife are from Alabama, so they are close to home in NO. Two is the ability to stay put in a home and not disrupt his families lives much by moving (especially to play in a cold weather city like Pittsburgh). Three is a continuity with the offense and OC. Four is Michael Thomas and the high likelihood that other quality receivers will be drafted/signed. Five is the fact our division sucks compared to just about every other division in football (again, VERY unlike Pittsburgh). Those are selling points I’d use.

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Now that’s a great question. I think Pittsburgh is a very enticing destination for him. He’d have a top 5 running back, an ascending TE, and a great receiving threat in Diontae Johnson.

However, he’s from the south. New Orleans puts him pretty close to his home of Alabama. There probably won’t be that much change in the offensive scheme so he knows the playbook. The fans truly have begun to soften up on him after seeing what life was like without him. And we gave him a chance when the world was against him. I hope he stays and is given the job he earned. No QB competition necessary.

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I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team.

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And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals.

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How would you know how 'intelligent' they are? You, for example, have a degree. I know this because you've made it a point to let us all know on more than a few occasions. But you're not very smart without twitter. So, how would you know?

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I can agree with your post. I think he still signs here to stick it to Tampa, not the only reason, but a win over them with him under C has to feel good mentally if nothing else. I doubt he would ever say it, but.

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Guess we'll see.

Scratch off Desean W, ARod, Jimmy G & Russ. Not realistic options.

Just to give you an idea of QBs that will hit the market in Free Agency:

Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz).

PLAN B could get mediocre to ugly if JW signs elsewhere.

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From that group I'd only bring in Teddy!