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saintfan 02-25-2022 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945817)
Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Colts go after Winston.

Wentz ain’t it.

Colts - Washington - Pittsburgh. I think Jameis is going to have options.

SaintGnome 02-25-2022 06:50 PM

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I'd like to go with JW at starter, bring Teddy back (he should be pretty cheap I would think and knows the system), them and Taysom would be a good QB room.

The Dude 02-25-2022 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 945819)
With Arians still as their HC? That would be shocking to me.

Kind of makes sense. They need a Qb and their SB window is still wide open. Hes familiar with their system and knows a ton about us and we are their biggest threat in the division. He’s also got chemistry with Evans and Godwin. I doubt him and Arians are on the best of terms but winning can heal a lot of wounds. It’s unlikely yes, but like I said my mind wouldn’t be blown if it happens.

K Major 02-25-2022 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 945825)
Kind of makes sense. They need a Qb and their SB window is still wide open. Hes familiar with their system and knows a ton about us and we are their biggest threat in the division. He’s also got chemistry with Evans and Godwin. I doubt him and Arians are on the best of terms but winning can heal a lot of wounds. It’s unlikely yes, but like I said my mind wouldn’t be blown if it happens.

What will really suck is if the Bucs go after Desean Watson. That is assuming he (no-trade clause) wants to go there.

I think their SB "run" is over. They have quite a few free agents who will get paid ... elsewhere.

JPP, Godwin, Suh, Fournette, OJ Howard, Ronald Jones etc.

They can't keep em all.

saintfan 02-25-2022 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 945826)
What will really suck is if the Bucs go after Desean Watson. That is assuming he (no-trade clause) wants to go there.

I think their SB "run" is over. They have quite a few free agents who will get paid ... elsewhere.

JPP, Godwin, Suh, Fournette, OJ Howard, Ronald Jones etc.

They can't keep em all.

For sure the cap stipulates they can't keep them all. We've lost many a good player to the cap. I won't have a moment of sympathy for 'em.

Boston Saint 02-26-2022 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 945825)
Kind of makes sense. They need a Qb and their SB window is still wide open. Hes familiar with their system and knows a ton about us and we are their biggest threat in the division. He’s also got chemistry with Evans and Godwin. I doubt him and Arians are on the best of terms but winning can heal a lot of wounds. It’s unlikely yes, but like I said my mind wouldn’t be blown if it happens.

I guess stranger things have happened. I just think Arians would more likely go after Wilson or Rodgers rather than sign Winston for another go around. Just my take.

AsylumGuido 02-26-2022 11:08 AM

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Cam is on the Winston train.


AsylumGuido 02-28-2022 11:23 AM

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bobdog86 02-28-2022 11:30 AM

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I'd gladly take Winston, believe he's deserved the opportunity, unless something happens (us picking up another vet starter) via Free Agency, which I doubt. But I do believe he will have some options.

AsylumGuido 02-28-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 945930)
I'd gladly take Winston, believe he's deserved the opportunity, unless something happens (us picking up another vet starter) via Free Agency, which I doubt. But I do believe he will have some options.

I believe he'll have options, too, but he's still in somewhat of a "prove it" situation, just like last season, coming off the injury. There's not a better place for him to "prove it" than in New Orleans with much of the same offense using the same terminology and with teammates with which he has already developed some rapport. The Saints have a huge edge on bringing him back versus other franchises.

saintfan 02-28-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 945933)
I believe he'll have options, too, but he's still in somewhat of a "prove it" situation, just like last season, coming off the injury. There's not a better place for him to "prove it" than in New Orleans with much of the same offense using the same terminology and with teammates with which he has already developed some rapport. The Saints have a huge edge on bringing him back versus other franchises.

Nothing new to add? You've been saying essentially the same thing, over and over and over. Don't you have a life?

AsylumGuido 03-03-2022 03:33 PM

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Edit: Full quote here ...


AsylumGuido 03-03-2022 03:48 PM

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I agree with Luke here. We've been pretty status quo with the coaching picture, so why not stick with the QB's, as well. I just can't see drafting another rookie when we haven't even had time to try to develop the one we drafted last year.


saintfan 03-03-2022 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946170)
I agree with Luke here. We've been pretty status quo with the coaching picture, so why not stick with the QB's, as well. I just can't see drafting another rookie when we haven't even had time to try to develop the one we drafted last year.

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...91986688065545

Of course you do. You are the very definition of group-think. Haven't had an opinion of your own in decades, if ever, is my guess...

Rell&Gold 03-03-2022 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946170)
I agree with Luke here. We've been pretty status quo with the coaching picture, so why not stick with the QB's, as well. I just can't see drafting another rookie when we haven't even had time to try to develop the one we drafted last year.

https://twitter.com/ByLukeJohnson/st...91986688065545

DA opinion on Ian Book isn't well known. Who knows if he believes in Book that was maybe more Sean's doing.I have DA style of QB being TOTALLY different from Book IMO

AsylumGuido 03-06-2022 08:17 AM

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Winston is "at home" in NOLA. I believe he wants to stay here.


saintfan 03-06-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946282)
Winston is "at home" in NOLA. I believe he wants to stay here.

https://twitter.com/SheDatWeDat/stat...45589170216962

Lots of people are "at home" in New Orleans. Lots of them got shipped off because of, oh, I don't know- -that thing you say doesn't matter...the Salary cap...just as an example. lol

Your passive-aggressive and relentless attempts to 'be right' are kinda stupid. It's a no-brainer to keep Jameis. Is your ego truly this large? NPD...so, uh...yeah, it is.

Back in the day, you'd be in here crowing about how 'right' you were about whatever it was you were obsessing about. Now its Jameis.

But you won't be attacking anybody this time. ;)

AsylumGuido 03-06-2022 01:25 PM

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Oh, hell, no.



AsylumGuido 03-06-2022 01:28 PM

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I'm right there with you, Chris!


K Major 03-06-2022 02:11 PM

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Saints - doing due diligence.

As they should.

saintfan 03-06-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946297)

You're with whatever way the wind is blowing. You have no spine.

AsylumGuido 03-06-2022 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946299)
Saints - doing due diligence.

As they should.

More like the media throwing something against the wall seeing if they can make it "click". ;)

saintfan 03-06-2022 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946301)
More like the media throwing something against the wall seeing if they can make it "click". ;)

The same media who's articles and tweets you post here incessantly and often plagiarize? That media? The media who gets your "click" with reliability? Cha ching little speedo.

:doh:

:rolleyes:

SmashMouth 03-06-2022 10:10 PM

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K Major 03-07-2022 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 946317)

Good stuff & insight by Mike.

rezburna 03-07-2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946296)

I wish they would go after this bum. I would hope the front office isn’t that dumb.

K Major 03-07-2022 11:08 AM

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Jimmy G is set for shoulder surgery later this week.

That will hurt any trade value he has.

I believe Lynch and company will end up cutting him.

saintfan 03-07-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946328)
Jimmy G is set for shoulder surgery later this week.

That will hurt any trade value he has.

I believe Lynch and company will end up cutting him.

Word out here is he's as good as gone. I sincerely hope the Saints leave him well enough alone.

saintsfan1976 03-07-2022 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946328)
Jimmy G is set for shoulder surgery later this week.

That will hurt any trade value he has.

I believe Lynch and company will end up cutting him.

he's a better backup than Siemian

saintfan 03-07-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 946331)
he's a better backup than Siemian

True but he'll get signed to start for someone. I hope it ain't us.

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 09:13 AM

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MatthewT 03-08-2022 01:47 PM

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Aaron Rodgers and now Russell Wilson have no chance at happening. I wonder if the Saints had any chance at Wilson, the Saints could have easily matched Denver's offer, I have to assume Seattle wanted no part of Wilson staying in the NFC. Winston's market may have just expanded a bit too, now Seattle needs a replacement for Wilson.

K Major 03-08-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 946445)
Aaron Rodgers and now Russell Wilson have no chance at happening. I wonder if the Saints had any chance at Wilson, the Saints could have easily matched Denver's offer, I have to assume Seattle wanted no part of Wilson staying in the NFC. Winston's market may have just expanded a bit too, now Seattle needs a replacement for Wilson.

The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player.

IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two.

Saints have too many other things to address.

SmashMouth 03-08-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946446)
The Broncos gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, a 5th, Drew Lock & one other (Noah Fant) player.

IMO that's a lot & can cripple a franchise for years. Let's check back on Denver in a year or two.

Saints have too many other things to address.

I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things. :confused:

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 946451)
I was thinking the same thing. The days of a Brett Farve trade for a #2 are way over. Salaries are super out of hand. And don't think Gambling Interests won't interject in some way with many of these player movements. Just projecting with the betting lines out there. And they have some silly bets out there for the stupidest things. :confused:

Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades.

On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago.

saintfan 03-08-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946459)
Prop bets have been a thing since long before the gambling industry ever became NFL corporate sponsors. You could bet on the winner of the coin toss or the duration of the National Anthem, et al, for decades.

On the salary front, while player pay appears be growing at a tremendous rate, it is the essentially same ratio of the overall cap as it has been all along. That is, as we all know, mandated by the CBA. If revenues increase by 15% per year the cap is mandated to increase by the same percentage and total salaries, in turn, are forced to keep pace. In relative terms the players are being paid basically the same rate as they were 30 years ago.

So know you're a gaming expert too? I bet you don't have a clue. How 'bout that bet? Bah hahahaha.

If we "all know", then why on Earth do you insist on posting it here? To make yourself feel valid? In relative terms you're no smarter now than the last tweet you stole. I bet your poor mirror wants a divorce...

AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 06:22 PM

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AsylumGuido 03-08-2022 06:24 PM

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TheKillerBs 03-09-2022 08:56 AM

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I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

saintfan 03-09-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 946525)
I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

Welcome back!


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