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TheKillerBs 03-09-2022 09:48 AM

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Welcome back!

Thank you!

SmashMouth 03-09-2022 01:12 PM

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AsylumGuido 03-09-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 946525)
I feel like our biggest competition for FA QB's is going to be Pittsburgh, at this point. Best case scenario, we get Winston or Bridgewater back. It will be really interesting to see what we can even do with our cap situation.

(Hey, everybody, not sure if you remember me, but I'm back after a lengthy absence. Couldn't take dealing with the dumb facebook fans anymore.)

I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. :D

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

saintfan 03-09-2022 01:42 PM

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I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. :D

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

How do you know this? Someone could make Jameis a better financial offer. Better for him. You throw around your opinion as if it's fact - still - NPD...little speedo strikes again!

K Major 03-09-2022 01:47 PM

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I could never forget your avatar. One of my all-time favorite movies. The kind that you are forced to watch from whatever point it is at when you come across it while flipping through channels. :D

And, yeah, I'd be shocked if we don't work something out with Winston. It would be the best scenario for both parties.

Unless Jimmy G is more appealing to the Saints front office & coaching staff than Winston.

This is the NFL. Prepare for the unexpected.

AsylumGuido 03-09-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946574)
Unless Jimmy G is more appealing to the Saints front office & coaching staff than Winston.

This is the NFL. Prepare for the unexpected.

Anything is possible, but it would make me no less shocked.

Mike Triplett seems to agree.


saintfan 03-09-2022 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 946575)
Anything is possible, but it would make me no less shocked.

Mike Triplett seems to agree.

https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...33523853185032

Using the media to support yourself and blasting the media when it makes you fit in with the group eh? Of course I'll be sure to point out your hypocrisy as we go little speedo...

MatthewT 03-09-2022 04:23 PM

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I think we are getting to the point now that if Jameis is not resigned by the Saints that it would be a crushing blow. I do feel that Jimmy G could be a good fit, but I really don't see the 49ers trading him to an NFC team, especially one that would likely make the playoffs.

subguy 03-10-2022 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 946574)
Unless Jimmy G is more appealing to the Saints front office & coaching staff than Winston.

This is the NFL. Prepare for the unexpected.

IMO, I think that either would be about at the same level, lower first tier or upper middle of the pack.

I just think expediency in a decision and signing is super important.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 08:04 AM

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Another good breakdown by Triplett on the QB decision


AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 08:17 AM

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saintsfan1976 03-10-2022 08:49 AM

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They just cleared another $12MM.

I'm sure Jameis will happen on their schedule.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 12:52 PM

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Good interview here.


saintfan 03-10-2022 01:05 PM

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Sean isn't here anymore. Hmmm, where did I hear that before...?

SmashMouth 03-10-2022 02:57 PM

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rezburna 03-10-2022 03:16 PM

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I’m slightly annoyed we haven’t signed Jameis. Especially with all these Jimmy G rumors circulating.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 03:22 PM

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I’m slightly annoyed we haven’t signed Jameis. Especially with all these Jimmy G rumors circulating.

They may have to wait until after the restructures are finished. Perhaps they have something worked out but not shared with the league office yet. They have to be at the cap figure by the 16th, Wednesday.

K Major 03-10-2022 03:35 PM

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I’m slightly annoyed we haven’t signed Jameis. Especially with all these Jimmy G rumors circulating.

Maybe they are in the "mix" for D Watson :p

rezburna 03-10-2022 04:08 PM

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Maybe they are in the "mix" for D Watson :p

I can rock with that.

AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 05:15 PM

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I can rock with that.

There's always Kaepernick. He's says he's primed and ready.


AsylumGuido 03-10-2022 05:34 PM

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Wow! Vegas now has Winston as odds on favorite at -110 as signing with the Saints. +220 was the best I'd seen until today. I wonder if they know something all of the sudden.


hitta 03-10-2022 07:27 PM

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It's the fact that the teams he may have gone have filled the position.

The Dude 03-10-2022 08:41 PM

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It's the fact that the teams he may have gone have filled the position.

This. Kinda have to wonder why. I thought he would be on the top of most teams list.

jnormand 03-10-2022 09:15 PM

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This. Kinda have to wonder why. I thought he would be on the top of most teams list.

Idk. Maybe he didn't really wow anyone last year. He had a good TD vs Int ratio (14 - 3). But he averaged just over 160 yards per game and only eclipsed 250 yards once while completing less than 60% of his passes in 7 games.

I know our receivers sucked. So there's that.

Just food for thought is all.

saintfan 03-10-2022 10:28 PM

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Idk. Maybe he didn't really wow anyone last year. He had a good TD vs Int ratio (14 - 3). But he averaged just over 160 yards per game and only eclipsed 250 yards once while completing less than 60% of his passes in 7 games.

I know our receivers sucked. So there's that.

Just food for thought is all.

He didn't. I'm not convinced it was all his fault - in fact with our oline and lack of WRs and Sean's clear handcuffing Jameis was playing seriously reserved.

But the numbers weren't good offensively.

Crusader 03-11-2022 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 946731)
Idk. Maybe he didn't really wow anyone last year. He had a good TD vs Int ratio (14 - 3). But he averaged just over 160 yards per game and only eclipsed 250 yards once while completing less than 60% of his passes in 7 games.

I know our receivers sucked. So there's that.

Just food for thought is all.

Good points and that's all that other teams see, film and stats. Our coaches sees everything else, the work put in, how he leads, how he acts in position meetings and so on.

SmashMouth 03-11-2022 03:08 AM

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SmashMouth 03-11-2022 05:13 AM

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SmashMouth 03-12-2022 01:40 AM

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AsylumGuido 03-14-2022 11:58 AM

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K Major 03-14-2022 12:01 PM

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Good.

Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level.

AsylumGuido 03-14-2022 12:03 PM

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Good.

Didn't want him in New Orleans. He's a glorified back up at this level.

I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston.

saintfan 03-14-2022 12:12 PM

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I doubt we had any interest in Trubisky, but the Steelers definitely had interest in Winston.

So sayeth twitter... :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 03-14-2022 01:26 PM

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Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

saintfan 03-14-2022 01:45 PM

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Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

The cap doesn't matter so the FA we can 'afford' would be any of them, eh speedo? Or have you come to your limited senses by now?

saintsfan1976 03-14-2022 08:20 PM

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Landing spots for Jameis have basically been narrowed to the Colts and ourselves. I'd rather have him, the talent we'd have to trade away, and the free agents we can afford over Watson even disregarding the distractions of the lawsuits.

To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

saintfan 03-14-2022 08:44 PM

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To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right?

SmashMouth 03-15-2022 01:39 AM

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To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 947156)
Locking down that position with a dynamic guy like that has to be worth the loss. I never was one to sweat dealing draft picks and, if we lose a few key players then train up the next group I guess - I'm not sure I could be mad about it. Teams go decades trying to find the QB to build around right?

Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes? :confused:

TheOak 03-15-2022 03:54 AM

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Can we slip them that Popeyes Sammich guy, Ruiz and some other former first rounder disappointing to us but significant player in their eyes? :confused:

I'm wunderin ifem sammiches play into his cap hit? Either the team is supplying them and they are part of compensation or he asked for a mil a year to cover them....

AsylumGuido 03-15-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947154)
To be fair we don't know the level of talent we'd trade away. And if we get Watson for a decade, it's arguably a great deal for US.

Nor do we know what we'll get out of Watson himself. He has a fairly limited body of work. His last season played he managed a 4-12 record as the starting QB. Then he refused to play the following season. He is staring a potential six game suspension in the face now that the criminal angle is out of the way. Houston is demanding young starting players in return ... of their choice. Not to mention the loss of key draft capital.

It's a huge gamble that could cripple our franchise for years. I'll still be a huge fan if it happens, but I am extremely concerned that it could blow up in our face.


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