Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

FinSaint · 02-18-2022, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I have to agree with that. Its the LT position that is the biggest question for me depending on what happens with Armstead.

Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst.

Crusader · 02-18-2022, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst.

I'm no fan of such a move, he could probably do it but we have, I would argue, the best RT in the leauge why not let him continue there?

jeanpierre · 02-18-2022, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I'm no fan of such a move, he could probably do it but we have, I would argue, the best RT in the leauge why not let him continue there?

Because he's an even better Left Tackle...

jeanpierre · 02-18-2022, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst.

That's been the plan; but the interior has got to be addressed; makes no sense to pay Kamara that money and not have an effective interior blocking front for him...

vpheughan · 02-18-2022, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The team won 9 games last year with Winston or Hill at QB. That was with no WR play, no TE play, very injured Oline play and no kicker for 3/4 of the year. Go along with COVID and hurricane issues.

Now, I’m not trying to argue (as I am repeatedly accused of doing) because you could easily be correct. But what makes you think Winston can’t succeed? Is it just the short game issues?

I believe Payton winning 9 games with last years offense proved HE could win without Brees. Which may have contributed to his "stepping away".

ChrisXVI · 02-18-2022, 08:48 AM

Ramczyk has to be named an All-Pro at LT and he’ll get $1 million extra. It’s not like the contract says just play LT and you’ll get $5 mil/yr extra. I think he stays at RT and we draft a LT.

MatthewT · 02-18-2022, 09:11 AM

I know some will cringe when I say this, but don't rule out a healthy Peat sliding over to LT if necessary.

K Major · 02-18-2022, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I know some will cringe when I say this, but don't rule out a healthy Peat sliding over to LT if necessary.

Tumbleweed Peat has SLOW feet and non athletic for tackle.

He’d get a QB killed.

Dougie M will confirm that later at training camp.

SmashMouth · 02-18-2022, 10:41 AM

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Crusader · 02-18-2022, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Because he's an even better Left Tackle...

You keep saying that but it is yet to be proven.

02-18-2022, 04:08 AM	#41
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Crusader I have to agree with that. Its the LT position that is the biggest question for me depending on what happens with Armstead. Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-18-2022, 06:27 AM	#42
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by FinSaint Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst. I'm no fan of such a move, he could probably do it but we have, I would argue, the best RT in the leauge why not let him continue there?

02-18-2022, 08:23 AM	#43
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Crusader I'm no fan of such a move, he could probably do it but we have, I would argue, the best RT in the leauge why not let him continue there? Because he's an even better Left Tackle... Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-18-2022, 08:24 AM	#44
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by FinSaint Ram moves to LT as that has apparently been the plan since he got his last contract, and then the Sants realistically need to draft a RT if Landon Young can't be the guy or try to get away with someone like Hurst. That's been the plan; but the interior has got to be addressed; makes no sense to pay Kamara that money and not have an effective interior blocking front for him...

02-18-2022, 08:28 AM	#45
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,524	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Boston Saint The team won 9 games last year with Winston or Hill at QB. That was with no WR play, no TE play, very injured Oline play and no kicker for 3/4 of the year. Go along with COVID and hurricane issues. Now, I’m not trying to argue (as I am repeatedly accused of doing) because you could easily be correct. But what makes you think Winston can’t succeed? Is it just the short game issues? I believe Payton winning 9 games with last years offense proved HE could win without Brees. Which may have contributed to his "stepping away". MatthewT, shawnkytonk and Boston Saint like this.
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02-18-2022, 08:48 AM	#46
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Ramczyk has to be named an All-Pro at LT and he’ll get $1 million extra. It’s not like the contract says just play LT and you’ll get $5 mil/yr extra. I think he stays at RT and we draft a LT. Crusader likes this.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option I know some will cringe when I say this, but don't rule out a healthy Peat sliding over to LT if necessary.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by MatthewT I know some will cringe when I say this, but don't rule out a healthy Peat sliding over to LT if necessary. Tumbleweed Peat has SLOW feet and non athletic for tackle. He’d get a QB killed. Dougie M will confirm that later at training camp. Rugby Saint II and shawnkytonk like this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by jeanpierre Because he's an even better Left Tackle... You keep saying that but it is yet to be proven. AsylumGuido, ChrisXVI, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.