Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

Rugby Saint II · 02-21-2022, 01:31 PM

Most of the national media think it's a good move. I question anything the media say even though I Ike him well enough. However, this scares me if only because it's what the pundits want, and we all know they're just idiots looking for clicks. Yes, I said clicks. Read it carefully.

TheOak · 02-22-2022, 08:37 AM

Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

Boston Saint · 02-22-2022, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

I’ll throw a few out there. One is he and his wife are from Alabama, so they are close to home in NO. Two is the ability to stay put in a home and not disrupt his families lives much by moving (especially to play in a cold weather city like Pittsburgh). Three is a continuity with the offense and OC. Four is Michael Thomas and the high likelihood that other quality receivers will be drafted/signed. Five is the fact our division sucks compared to just about every other division in football (again, VERY unlike Pittsburgh). Those are selling points I’d use.

rezburna · 02-22-2022, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

Now that’s a great question. I think Pittsburgh is a very enticing destination for him. He’d have a top 5 running back, an ascending TE, and a great receiving threat in Diontae Johnson.

However, he’s from the south. New Orleans puts him pretty close to his home of Alabama. There probably won’t be that much change in the offensive scheme so he knows the playbook. The fans truly have begun to soften up on him after seeing what life was like without him. And we gave him a chance when the world was against him. I hope he stays and is given the job he earned. No QB competition necessary.

Crusader · 02-22-2022, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

However, he’s from the south. New Orleans puts him pretty close to his home of Alabama. There probably won’t be that much change in the offensive scheme so he knows the playbook. The fans truly have begun to soften up on him after seeing what life was like without him. And we gave him a chance when the world was against him. I hope he stays and is given the job he earned. No QB competition necessary.

I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team.

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team.

And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals.

saintfan · 02-22-2022, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals.

How would you know how 'intelligent' they are? You, for example, have a degree. I know this because you've made it a point to let us all know on more than a few occasions. But you're not very smart without twitter. So, how would you know?

halloween 65 · 02-22-2022, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston.

The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not.

I can agree with your post. I think he still signs here to stick it to Tampa, not the only reason, but a win over them with him under C has to feel good mentally if nothing else. I doubt he would ever say it, but.

K Major · 02-22-2022, 10:59 AM

Guess we'll see.

Scratch off Desean W, ARod, Jimmy G & Russ. Not realistic options.

Just to give you an idea of QBs that will hit the market in Free Agency:

Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz).

PLAN B could get mediocre to ugly if JW signs elsewhere.

Crusader · 02-22-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz).

From that group I'd only bring in Teddy!

02-21-2022, 01:31 PM	#71
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02-22-2022, 08:37 AM	#72
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston. The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not. jnormand, Crusader, halloween 65 and 1 others like this.

02-22-2022, 08:51 AM	#73
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheOak Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston. The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not. I’ll throw a few out there. One is he and his wife are from Alabama, so they are close to home in NO. Two is the ability to stay put in a home and not disrupt his families lives much by moving (especially to play in a cold weather city like Pittsburgh). Three is a continuity with the offense and OC. Four is Michael Thomas and the high likelihood that other quality receivers will be drafted/signed. Five is the fact our division sucks compared to just about every other division in football (again, VERY unlike Pittsburgh). Those are selling points I’d use. Crusader likes this.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheOak Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston. The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not. Now that’s a great question. I think Pittsburgh is a very enticing destination for him. He’d have a top 5 running back, an ascending TE, and a great receiving threat in Diontae Johnson. However, he’s from the south. New Orleans puts him pretty close to his home of Alabama. There probably won’t be that much change in the offensive scheme so he knows the playbook. The fans truly have begun to soften up on him after seeing what life was like without him. And we gave him a chance when the world was against him. I hope he stays and is given the job he earned. No QB competition necessary. Crusader, AsylumGuido and Boston Saint like this.
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02-22-2022, 08:59 AM	#75
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by rezburna However, he’s from the south. New Orleans puts him pretty close to his home of Alabama. There probably won’t be that much change in the offensive scheme so he knows the playbook. The fans truly have begun to soften up on him after seeing what life was like without him. And we gave him a chance when the world was against him. I hope he stays and is given the job he earned. No QB competition necessary. I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team. AsylumGuido likes this.

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02-22-2022, 09:24 AM	#76
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by Crusader I think that part in bold is important, it takes time to get comfortable in a new system. I would also add the fact that he seems to be very liked by his teammates on the Saints. Sometimes that stuff is more important than earing another 200K on a different team. And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals. Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-22-2022, 10:46 AM	#77
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And knowing the playbook is only part of it. With Carmichael still in place as the OC the actual terminology should be the same. I have heard many a QB say that the most difficult part of transitioning to another system, whether with another team or with the change of systems with the same team, is mastering the new terminology. And this is coming from very intelligent individuals. How would you know how 'intelligent' they are? You, for example, have a degree. I know this because you've made it a point to let us all know on more than a few occasions. But you're not very smart without twitter. So, how would you know?

02-22-2022, 10:48 AM	#78
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by TheOak Everyone asking whether Winston is the best option for the starting QB job in New Orleans but I have not seen one question regarding whether New Orleans in its present condition is the best option for Jameis Winston. The guy is a free agent and arguably the best free-agent on the market, why does he want to come here? Money... Head coach.... Good receiving corps.... A notable talent to develop him.... Stop me when I hit on something we presently have that other options do not. I can agree with your post. I think he still signs here to stick it to Tampa, not the only reason, but a win over them with him under C has to feel good mentally if nothing else. I doubt he would ever say it, but. Crusader likes this.

02-22-2022, 10:59 AM	#79
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Guess we'll see. Scratch off Desean W, ARod, Jimmy G & Russ. Not realistic options. Just to give you an idea of QBs that will hit the market in Free Agency: Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz). PLAN B could get mediocre to ugly if JW signs elsewhere.

02-22-2022, 11:12 AM	#80
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith, Old man Joe Flacco, Fig Newton, 2Glove Teddy, Mariota, Trubisquit, & the Harvard Guy (Fitz). From that group I'd only bring in Teddy! halloween 65 and K Major like this.