Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option

K Major · 02-22-2022, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota.

Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

jnormand · 02-22-2022, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded.

I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role?

The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol.

I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB.

halloween 65 · 02-22-2022, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded.

I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role?

The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol.

I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB.

I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE.

K Major · 02-22-2022, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE.

Kinda undersized to play the position ... specifically his weight.

halloween 65 · 02-22-2022, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kinda undersized to play the position ... specifically his weight.

6'2 230 4.56 speed, beef him up 10-15 lbs. and he's nightmare. Able to truck most cb's and S,with his speed lb's have a mismatch all game long. Decent enough hands and willing to block, not much downfall especially with what we have at TE right now.

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

6'2 230 4.56 speed, beef him up 10-15 lbs. and he's nightmare. Able to truck most cb's and S,with his speed lb's have a mismatch all game long. Decent enough hands and willing to block, not much downfall especially with what we have at TE right now.

Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date.

saintfan · 02-22-2022, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date.

Oh he could pull a Jimmy Graham and leverage the NFLPA to renegotiate his contract, eh speedo?

ChrisXVI · 02-22-2022, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date.

That’s not exactly true. His cap hit every year is around $12 million without the incentives. That gives him the 5th highest cap hit in the league for TE’s this year and 6th highest next year.

saintfan · 02-22-2022, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE.

We definitely need a TE cause fish boy can't even cut bait...

AsylumGuido · 02-22-2022, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

I guess it depends upon who viewed him as what between Payton and Carmichael. Was it Pete or Sean's feeling he could be a starting QB?

02-22-2022, 02:12 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by rezburna If Payton was still here I’d try out Mariota. Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense?

02-22-2022, 05:35 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by jnormand An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded. I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role? The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol. I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB. I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE. jnormand and K Major like this.

02-22-2022, 05:41 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by halloween 65 I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE. Kinda undersized to play the position ... specifically his weight.

02-22-2022, 07:25 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Kinda undersized to play the position ... specifically his weight. 6'2 230 4.56 speed, beef him up 10-15 lbs. and he's nightmare. Able to truck most cb's and S,with his speed lb's have a mismatch all game long. Decent enough hands and willing to block, not much downfall especially with what we have at TE right now. AsylumGuido likes this.

02-22-2022, 08:13 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by halloween 65 6'2 230 4.56 speed, beef him up 10-15 lbs. and he's nightmare. Able to truck most cb's and S,with his speed lb's have a mismatch all game long. Decent enough hands and willing to block, not much downfall especially with what we have at TE right now. Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date.

02-22-2022, 03:46 PM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense? An interesting question K. They have to do something with him. Doubt he gets cut or traded. I just wonder if they're as high on him as a possible QB as Payton was. If not, can they use him like Payton did in that joker role? The guy is an athlete. idk. Make him a TE or a RB or something if he's not gonna be a QB. Lol. I'm sure he'll see the field one way or another. No way they're gonna pay him that coin to sit the bench and be a #2 QB.

02-22-2022, 08:18 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date. Oh he could pull a Jimmy Graham and leverage the NFLPA to renegotiate his contract, eh speedo?

02-22-2022, 08:26 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes! Also consider that most of his contract cost is married to what he does at QB via specific incentives. He is not that expensive playing TE or any other position as long as he produces as he has shown those areas to date. That’s not exactly true. His cap hit every year is around $12 million without the incentives. That gives him the 5th highest cap hit in the league for TE’s this year and 6th highest next year.

02-22-2022, 07:44 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by halloween 65 I turn him into a TE, not durable enough for a rb. He might surprize at TE. We definitely need a TE cause fish boy can't even cut bait... SmashMouth and halloween 65 like this.

02-22-2022, 04:04 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Why Jameis Winston is STILL Saints best QB option Originally Posted by K Major Now that Payton is "semi retired" & out of those coaching meetings, do you see Dennis/Pete C continue to move forward with Taysom as the "Joker" type in this offense? I guess it depends upon who viewed him as what between Payton and Carmichael. Was it Pete or Sean's feeling he could be a starting QB?