Deshaun Watson to Saints?

vpheughan · 03-18-2022, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Well if we don't get Watson (and I hope we don't), we've sure pissed off Ceedy Deuce and Winston with this BS. I sure hope Dennis Allen knows what he's doing. Because right now it sure seems like he's being a little careless.

Careless is when the player finds out he's been traded by hearing it on the radio!
It IS a business. It's okay for a player to be upset because he finds out he's trade bait and feels "betrayed"?

When a player then leaves the team that gave him his start because another team offers him more $$$$$$$$$. Do the fans and team feel betrayed? I don't.

TheKillerBs · 03-18-2022, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Careless is when the player finds out he's been traded by hearing it on the radio!
It IS a business. It's okay for a player to be upset because he finds out he's trade bait and feels "betrayed"?

When a player then leaves the team that gave him his start because another team offers him more $$$$$$$$$. Do the fans and team feel betrayed? I don't.

Well said.

BakoSaint · 03-18-2022, 11:35 AM

One key difference between Watson and Winston is that with Winston we still have draft picks, with which we can select wide receivers. With Watson, all bets are on Michael Thomas showing up and staying healthy, which could be a risky bet. With Winston we could possibly draft multiple new receivers for depth. I don’t think Watson will be great with Deonte H as his #1 wr and Little Jordan Howard as #2.

TheKillerBs · 03-18-2022, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

One key difference between Watson and Winston is that with Winston we still have draft picks, with which we can select wide receivers. With Watson, all bets are on Michael Thomas showing up and staying healthy, which could be a risky bet. With Winston we could possibly draft multiple new receivers for depth. I don’t think Watson will be great with Deonte H as his #1 wr and Little Jordan Howard as #2.

We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life.

AsylumGuido · 03-18-2022, 11:53 AM

BakoSaint · 03-18-2022, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life.

Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.

AsylumGuido · 03-18-2022, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.

Michael Thomas was very durable for his first four seasons. It wasn't until the ankle injury that he played through in 2020 than he missed any significant time. There's no history that would indicate that he would not return to his normal dependable self once he returns to the field.

AsylumGuido · 03-18-2022, 01:09 PM

We really have no idea what or who is holding things up right now. It could be Houston or one of the trade partners getting all of the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed. There may need to be some pre-trade restructuring required. Watson may have already gave his consent on the no-trade clause.

Or not.

NOLA54 · 03-18-2022, 11:54 AM

OK this guy is playing us now. I bet he's hoping we pull out so he doesn't need to make a decision. The problem is I don't want to loose anything to Atlanta.

saintsfan1976 · 03-18-2022, 12:14 PM

More assumptions being made about how players feel...

It was reported plenty of players on our own team were actively recruiting Watson. I think they all want to win and want the best players around them.

03-18-2022, 12:08 PM	#1
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,547	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by jnormand Well if we don't get Watson (and I hope we don't), we've sure pissed off Ceedy Deuce and Winston with this BS. I sure hope Dennis Allen knows what he's doing. Because right now it sure seems like he's being a little careless. Careless is when the player finds out he's been traded by hearing it on the radio! It IS a business. It's okay for a player to be upset because he finds out he's trade bait and feels "betrayed"? When a player then leaves the team that gave him his start because another team offers him more $$$$$$$$$. Do the fans and team feel betrayed? I don't.
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03-18-2022, 11:35 AM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? One key difference between Watson and Winston is that with Winston we still have draft picks, with which we can select wide receivers. With Watson, all bets are on Michael Thomas showing up and staying healthy, which could be a risky bet. With Winston we could possibly draft multiple new receivers for depth. I don’t think Watson will be great with Deonte H as his #1 wr and Little Jordan Howard as #2.
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03-18-2022, 12:13 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheKillerBs We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life. Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there.
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03-18-2022, 01:05 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by BakoSaint Oh yeah Calloway. He is ok too, like Harris. The point is that those guys are #4 or #5 options on many playoff contenders, and if they are our #1 and #2 we have problems and won't be consistent. Plus they are human and miss games, and then if MT pulls an MT, we have Little Johnson Howard and Adam Troutman as our top threats and we maybe don't score any points. Its great that we have better receivers than Atlanta, but neither being #31 or #32 in the NFL in receiver core quality is good for getting value out of a QB you sell the farm for, and I don't trust Michael Thomas to be there. Michael Thomas was very durable for his first four seasons. It wasn't until the ankle injury that he played through in 2020 than he missed any significant time. There's no history that would indicate that he would not return to his normal dependable self once he returns to the field.

03-18-2022, 01:09 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? We really have no idea what or who is holding things up right now. It could be Houston or one of the trade partners getting all of the "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed. There may need to be some pre-trade restructuring required. Watson may have already gave his consent on the no-trade clause. Or not.

03-18-2022, 12:12 PM	#2
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by vpheughan Careless is when the player finds out he's been traded by hearing it on the radio! It IS a business. It's okay for a player to be upset because he finds out he's trade bait and feels "betrayed"? When a player then leaves the team that gave him his start because another team offers him more $$$$$$$$$. Do the fans and team feel betrayed? I don't. Well said.

03-18-2022, 11:45 AM	#4
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by BakoSaint One key difference between Watson and Winston is that with Winston we still have draft picks, with which we can select wide receivers. With Watson, all bets are on Michael Thomas showing up and staying healthy, which could be a risky bet. With Winston we could possibly draft multiple new receivers for depth. I don’t think Watson will be great with Deonte H as his #1 wr and Little Jordan Howard as #2. We still have Marquez Callaway, also. He's not bad. Better than anyone the Falcons have right now, minus Calvin Ridley, who may be in NFL jail the rest of his life.

03-18-2022, 11:53 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Twitter

03-18-2022, 11:54 AM	#9
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? OK this guy is playing us now. I bet he's hoping we pull out so he doesn't need to make a decision. The problem is I don't want to loose anything to Atlanta.

03-18-2022, 12:14 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? More assumptions being made about how players feel... It was reported plenty of players on our own team were actively recruiting Watson. I think they all want to win and want the best players around them.