Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks

saintsfan1976 · 10-12-2022, 11:54 AM

The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best.

No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped.

If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often...

AsylumGuido · 10-12-2022, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best.

No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped.

If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often...

No doubt we all hope he turns out to be something special. But the NFL is made up of offensive linemen that are at best less than serviceable. And it appears that a solid percentage of those are currently on IR.

Oh, and I don't feel I promote Ruiz any more than any other Saints player. I simply share every article or interesting mention, just like with any other Saints player, NOT completely behind a paywall.

By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

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Cam Jordan gain a half sack from the Seattle game.

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SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-13-2022, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust.

So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others?

SFIAH

Boston Saint · 10-13-2022, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.

Did the guy who starts each year predicting an undefeated season just use the world “realistically”??!! 😝

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Rell&Gold · 10-13-2022, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever

I respect your opinion.
However, I'm of the opinion that he can be a starting QB if used properly, not Pete's vanilla play calling, but a dynamic offense designed for Taysom's strengths & run-threat.
The dude trained to be a TE this season and so far he's been our most effective QB, and still gets labeled as a gadget?... ok, whatever.

Andy has been the most effective QB. Taysom was Taysom Hill AK Olave did what they do as well as Trequan.

Boston Saint · 10-13-2022, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Andy has been the most effective QB. Taysom was Taysom Hill AK Olave did what they do as well as Trequan.

Even if an effective, lasting offense could be designed and implemented for Hill I don’t think he’d stay healthy enough to run it. He can be feature for 1/3 of the game, but won’t last full time under center.

AsylumGuido · 10-14-2022, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust.

So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others?

SFIAH

Yup. Under that criteria all but two or three 1st rounders every year are a bust.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best. No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped. If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often... K Major likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The problem though is that he's nothing more than a serviceable guard, at best. No matter how many times you attempt to promote him (oooh look, he had a goood game) - Ruiz is and will always be less than what we'd all hoped. If that changes, you can fire up the crow. I'll bring a bib and won't leave the table until the bones are clean. But that 'aint often... No doubt we all hope he turns out to be something special. But the NFL is made up of offensive linemen that are at best less than serviceable. And it appears that a solid percentage of those are currently on IR. Oh, and I don't feel I promote Ruiz any more than any other Saints player. I simply share every article or interesting mention, just like with any other Saints player, NOT completely behind a paywall. By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade.
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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks Originally Posted by AsylumGuido By the way exactly what was it that everybody realistically hoped Ruiz would be? My personal expectations were for him to be a solid starter for the next decade. Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust. So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others? SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever I respect your opinion. However, I'm of the opinion that he can be a starting QB if used properly, not Pete's vanilla play calling, but a dynamic offense designed for Taysom's strengths & run-threat. The dude trained to be a TE this season and so far he's been our most effective QB, and still gets labeled as a gadget?... ok, whatever. Andy has been the most effective QB. Taysom was Taysom Hill AK Olave did what they do as well as Trequan.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Observations from the Saints win vs Seahawks Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Who's being realistic? The expectation is that every 1st round pick must instantly be an All-Pro and play in every game for a 12 year career. Anything less, then they are a bust. So far Lattimore has lived up to the hype. The others? SFIAH Yup. Under that criteria all but two or three 1st rounders every year are a bust.