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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The CBA has watered down the game. No tackling most of camp has led to sloppy tackles and injuries as well. These guys are not used to playing full speed and it shows in ...
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10-18-2022, 11:49 AM | #41 |
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Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
+1. Hell, Trautman can’t even jog !
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10-18-2022, 11:58 AM | #42 |
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Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
I believe there has also been a shift in philosophy when it comes to injuries versus being hurt. I believe most teams, and especially the Saints, have become ultra conservative when it comes to the player's health. It seems that players are being made to sit out games where they would have just "played through the pain" in the past.
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10-18-2022, 12:01 PM | #43 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
This is my opinion as well. I'm not sure if it's the team or the players driving the change.
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10-18-2022, 12:05 PM | #44 |
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Well, there’s the days of Ronnie Lott where he had a part of his finger cut off so he could get back in the game. Certainly those days are gone. But weather guys are not playing when they could….that’s a tough idea to believe when your team is under .500 and fighting to be relevant.
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
I'd put all my money on the team. Or people like Dr. Matt Rhea who has been hired by the team to oversee the player's health. As rezburna pointed out recently these players want to play. Quite often to the detriment of their own well being as many admit.
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10-18-2022, 12:28 PM | #46 |
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First off, concussions are a different ball of wax. After the Tua situation, both sides are being cautious.
And QB position is a separate category from other players. Mainly because they are the only player at their position on the field. So Watson may want to play but the staff is saying no because his injury is too hampering to his performance. But I don’t believe that non QB, Non concussion injured players are being held back by the team more than the players themselves. In other words there isn’t someone on the Saints telling Thomas he can’t play. It’s Thomas saying he’s not ready. Maybe I’m wrong. |
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10-18-2022, 02:30 PM | #47 |
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Re: If we could just have our Starting core...
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
You don't know what happened. Why do you all present your OPINIONS as absolute regarding Thomas and the team? You stated no facts. He got injured played through injury reaggravated the injury and now he's back. You talk his doctors? Did you talk to the Saints doctor? Did you talk to MT? Or did you read random "Saints Insider" outlets and went with media stories because they fit your bias surrounding MT?
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10-18-2022, 02:34 PM | #48 |
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
Partially agree here. There have been less major injur9es during training camp. You want more contact more injuries? Or Less contact less injuries? If your team was severely impacted by performance due to not making 10 extra tackles during training camp it want meant to be
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10-18-2022, 02:42 PM | #49 |
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This previous off-season is going to be the one that hurts the Saints the most. We had waaay more holes to fill other than WR which we put the house up for. DT RB2 Safety Nickel CB2 T G. We left so much bone on the table with this draft. Eagles received Nakobe Dean Jordan Davis CGJ and what looks to be a top 10 first. And they are 6-0. Patriots have picked up 2 QBs within the last TWO seasons. Saints overvalued this roster last year. The draft process shows. The only x-factor here is potentially getting some picks from Sean playing with another team. Marcus Williams and CGJ should be our starting Safety. I like Marcus Maye personally I think the CB play outside of Marshon has been horrendous with some upside for Allontae. Other than that very poor play. RB2 Dameon Pierce Rachaad White Breece Hall. There were options. A lot of the holes that could have been filled this year was looked over with the expectation of ZERO drop off from the Defense and a Offense getting its top WR and one of the best if not the best rookie WR this year. Eagles robbed us with NO gun.
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10-18-2022, 02:45 PM | #50 |
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold
Good points. Added to the “Less contact less injury” idea is “Less contact (fieldtime) less cohesiveness”. It’s not surprising Dalton can make throws to Callaway and Smith….They got more practice and playing time together than Thomas/Landry/Winston did.
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